I probably 3bet shove pre or fold. I don’t necessarily like calling bc you really don’t know where you stand in he hand going forward. I know it is a little much to 3 bet shove, but w/dead money in middle you will probably take it own w/your fe most if the time to be profitable. If called we will just have to get there:) I just don’t like 3bettin w/marginal hand vs fish who will be calling you a bunch, and then you are playing oop with awkward stack.

I think if you are going to 3 bet this hand you might as well 3 bet jam it.  If you 3bet and get called you are left with roughly 20 bb's and if you miss the flop you are in an awkward spot with your stack, not to mention OOP. Like FkCoolers said it really is high variance so I don't hate a flat here as I would assume villain is opening super wide here on the button and there are many weaker hands in his range. Honestly I probably flat, due to your history with this guy and see what happens.  I check/call on the flop because we can assume he is c-betting almost 100% of the time on this board and are more than likely still ahead. When the turn brings the Kd I think I check/jam.  You obv are never folding and flatting is bad due to the 3 diamond board. If he checks back I probably jam any non diamond river, except an A as it would be a little over a pot sized bet and I think it looks really fishy.  If the river is a K I probably value bet  to induce or hope he either spazzes or pays me off with worse.

hawkeyeK9 said:

FkCoolers said:

As played the river is probably a fold. It's so hard for him to have a bluffing hand here and he also won't really show up with a worse Kx – I doubt KT plays the hand this way. K9 obviously kills us and less than that is folding pre, I would think.

I check and flat turn and then check river to give him a chance to bluff all of it on river, otherwise I would have jammed turn but that would be bad imo because worse does not call often enough. Think I am giving him an opportunity to bluff and committed on river.

but sometimes thats ok when there is so much money in the pot already while also having to not make a difficult decision on a future street. im still not advocating you CRAI turn but that kinda thinking isnt always accurate.

as played though hes not floating flop with Kx cuz AK ship pre and KQ would be strangely played this way. his turn bet is either inducing or its just weak. so when you get to river and he bets i highly doubt he does this with a showdown hand thats worse cuz i really think he wud chk back something like 77/88. TT prob ships it pre. he cud have A9 or flushes but also air but he shud know ur didnt just put most of your stack in to fold river…but if hes a retard like u say he might not know this.

I just wouldnt have made it such a difficult hand, personally. id prob 3b bigger pre and stuff any flop unless it was completely crushed.

Thanks for all the responses. Villian had A2dd for the flush. I see what you all mean and will take it into account next time. 3bet jam seems kinda high variance ICM wise. Thanks guys

You are on the BB. I can understand 3betting pre more so if your from the small blind, given your stack size I think the only play here is to flat and play post vs a “fish”.