i just logged in on all 3   FT PS AP   no problems

Sorry I meant for US players

Im in UK and all of mine work fine but this is quite worrying for all poker players. Especially full time players

It may take a while for all DNS to FEDERAL WARNING! Feds seized all the domain names.

Well, nevermind on that.  No deposits or withdrawls can be processed until further notice as far as Absolute Poker goes.  Do any of the TPE pros have any info about this?  I guess this is the end of onlike poker for the US.

sippinscotch said:

Well, nevermind on that.  No deposits or withdrawls can be processed until further notice as far as Absolute Poker goes.  Do any of the TPE pros have any info about this?  I guess this is the end of onlike poker for the US.

No one has any more info than what is out there.

I really think panicing and getting worked up are counterproductive. It's day two. Just take a deep breath and wait to see what happens. It seems obvious to me that for US players at least, our money is safer online than it is in the hands of the 3rd party processors used to make withdrawals, that are based in the US and have a way higher chance of being seized than the offshore accts used to keep player balances.

This is certainly not good, but to say it's the end of online poker in the US is just preemptive and naive. I think there's a far greater chance that this accelerates regulation than it leading to the end of online poker in the US entirely. But again, I really don't want to speculate at this time, and I urge everyone else to do the same.

To non-US players, I don't know about you but I'd be grinding my pants off!

I think this is probably the fairest summary yet of the events that have happened thus far. All the speculation floating around right now is so useless considering that this case is in unchartered water without precedence and how much authority the US Gov't has is unclear:

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Last week I tried to cash out a cheque in US dollars from Pokerstars, and they won't let me.. they said that they had some trouble with the cheque's issuers, and that non US citizens could not withdraw in US dollars anymore.. so I could only withdraw in Euros… I did cash out succesfully but I sensed that something akwarkd was coming..

Yeah.. like weapons in Irak !!!

P-aire 146 said:

From a law enforcement view, the fed gov had enough to bring a good indictment.  They wouldn't have done it unless they felt strong about the case.  

 

 

 

Check this out, y'all!

……ly/ifmq6C

Is UB processing cashouts normally? They permit US people play there..Can bigdog give us a clue of whats going on?

Thanks in advance…

mmfitter said:

I tried to deposit on Cake using a visa prepaid card and the transaction was declined. Customer support told me it's not always immediatley clear to them what the reason may be. They told me to try another card.

 After going to the cards website, I found some info that said overseas internet transactions may be declined. Does anyone know which prepaid cards def work on Carbon?

And most of the payment processors don't even accept US transactions. Man, this really sucks.

if you want to play Cake, i can get you money on Broadway Tables (a Cake skin), and possibly a really good rakeback deal. a friend of mine works for BT, i'll just ask him if he can hook it up.

Big Dog is Canadian and can make good videos on all kinds of sites. And don’t worry about the other training sites, as I hear some of the coaches are making new play money vids.

bennymacca said:

how many big name pros do you think will move to canada or australia?

Yah Benny… Could ya just see Big Dog heading down to Westies on Wednesday night to play the Westies Deepstack Freeroll… JK
 

In all seriousness tho these moves taken by the FBI could have wider implications in countries like Australia, we have several politicians here who do hold some serious power that would use any excuse to reduce our access to online poker and gambling as whole… Mr X and Wilkie are both strongly oposed to poker machines and would be likely to push legislation to curb the level of online gambling given half a chance.

great blog post by Poker Stars Team Online member Foucault (RonFezBuddy's mentor):

Black Friday: My (Non-)Thoughts

April 18th, 2011 | Author: foucault

I want to begin with appreciation and an apology. I’m flattered that
so many people have been eager to hear my thoughts on the recent events
that rocked the online poker world, and I’m sorry that this post is
going to disappoint you.

The truth is that I don’t know what to think and at this point I
don’t want to speculate. Unfortunately my relationship with PokerStars
doesn’t give me access to any inside information, so I’m as clueless as
anyone about what’s going on and what will happen next. I do think the
situation will get clearer soon, though I don’t know how soon.

I know that for some of you this is an apocalyptic moment, and I wish
that I could be of more help. The best I can do is point you to the
best advice I’ve come across for dealing with the present situation,
which comes from Jared Tendler:

“It’s hard to know what this means, but I do think it’s
important to avoid speculating or get caught up listening to others who
are doing it. Stay tuned into facts, listen to credible people, and do
what you think is best. It’s easy to think only of the absolute worst
case, and on one level it can be smart to prepare for that possibility,
it also many not be the most helpful when ultimately figuring out what
you need to do. Try to brainstorm some options so you’re prepared to
make decisions as more information becomes certain and avoid making
premature definitive conclusions.”

…

“Right now you’re looking for answers. The problem is that some of
you are so desperate for answers you’ll listen to almost anything or
anyone. That desperation is very similar to feeling desperate to win.
You’ll do almost anything to shake this feeling because the uncertainty
is almost too much to handle.

The reality is that there aren’t many answers out there right now. If
you try to force an answer too soon, you’ll be making the same mistake
if you were forcing the action because you need to win money right
now. You have to stick to a sound and logical strategy.”

Jared has a lot more to say on the subject, and he’s made a free
excerpt from his new book available, so I encourage you to read the
whole post if you’re feeling anxious right now.

Finally, I want to thank everyone who has expressed concern for my
situation. It’s very touching to hear from you, but the truth is that
I’ll be fine no matter what happens. I’ve got plenty of money saved up
and actually enjoyed having a free weekend for once.

Despite my silence the last few days, I do intend to keep blogging.
I’ve got plenty of poker-related stuff in the hopper, but you’ll
probably see an increase in the number of stories, musings, and
low-poker-content posts. I get the sense that some of you would enjoy
that anyway. I know I will.

his blog, Thinking Poker, is one of the better poker blogs out there, and can be found at: ……net/blog/

I’m a uk player and I had problems updating files once this all kicked off. I just re installed the client and it was fine. Works fine for me now not sure why yours wouldn’t be. I think an email to support may be in order

Since people seem to continue to be generally panicked – or confused, or “in the dark” – about the repercussions surrounding the indictments, I'll repost this video. Please watch and listen to the exchange, particularly the segment abut the illegality of the feds' acts as they pertian to our accounts.

……ly/ifmq6C

mesoanarchy said:

Since people seem to continue to be generally panicked – or confused, or “in the dark” – about the repercussions surrounding the indictments, I'll repost this video. Please watch and listen to the exchange, particularly the segment abut the illegality of the feds' acts as they pertian to our accounts.

……ly/ifmq6C

No offense to you at all, but that video is just rubbish as far as I can tell. First of all, nobody has any idea how much money has been taken or from where. So to act as though it's a fact that players are having funds seized is outrageous, and as you can see here they don't care about that as much as just staging an argument about the legality/morality of online poker (FWIW It is pretty awesome that the host berated and humiliated that asshat saying that it needed to be stopped).

Read the indictment. The feds have “issued an order restraining approx. 76 bank accounts in 14 countries containing the proceeds of the charged offenses.” Stars has already come out to say that player balances are kept in accounts separate from the site's money. And even if they weren't, it's not as though we have any idea what accounts have been seized. Many of these banks lie outside the US, where the feds may or may not be able to actually do anything.

You are starting to hear stories about withdraws going through to non-US players, which is a good sign. Obviously the sites are not prepared to process 30,000 transfers all placed within 2 hours of each other under those conditions. The main question is when and how are they going to be able to return money to US players. And that is a big question, but not one that anyone can really answer right now.