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folding QQ on aria nightly FT
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July 2, 2016 - 3:47 pm
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Was at aria nightly FT with 11.5k FTW 2nd hand were 10 handed. Get QhQs in LJ folds to me and I raise to 35k from my 440k stack playing 8k/16k blinds. Was called by HJ, button and BB. I am second in chips with HJ has approx 500k.

Flop comes 7s7h4s I bet 50k HJ raises to 125k all fold to me I call. Getting such good odds here I think the call is right. We are shallow enough I could over shove being he could have spades, 88-JJ, or even 55, 66.

turn is Jc I check he bets 220k leaving little behind for river bet. I tank fold. The J takes away one of the hand that is plausible that I am now losing to, alot of 78, 67, 97, that he flatting in position, could have been spades as well that he would flat in position, the problem is with the Qs in my hand I block alot of spades that would be semibluffing here like KQ, QJ, QT, Q9 spades, just really thought alot more 7s in his range that Im drawing thin against, and even if he has KJ s that is a lot of outs even against his semibluffing range.

In all honesty I did not consider 56 at the time that he could do this with, if I had that puts enough extra semibluffs in his range I prob would have called or if I did not have the Qs in my hand I would have called. This would have been such an ICM punt to lose to chipleader on 2nd hand like this. After I folded he showed QdTh for complete air. and this was my first hand playing with him. Afterward I saw he was a madman playing 60% of hands. I went out in 6th after shoving JJ getting called by 88 for 10bb and rivered the 8. Thanks for any thoughts

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July 2, 2016 - 8:43 pm
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440k stack at 8k/16k is 27.5bb; I don´t think i can fold QQ OTF, probably just 3bet if I put V on draws, as played call turn for all your chips, at this point you have 280k for 17.5bb.

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I think the fact that villain turned out to be a madman here is evidence of why folding a hand so close to the top of your range without a read on your opponent is a dangerous game. It’s very easy to make a hero-fold in a spot like this and be really, really wrong, so I would recommend playing the hand a little differently, either 3-bet shoving flop (probably fine, it’s tough for villain to have 7x) or getting it in on turn.

This is actually a pretty reasonable spot to check the flop, too. If you want to avoid a tough ICM spot and give yourself easy decisions you can take the conservative route and call down (especially with the Qs), or you can check-raise and force the HJ to get it in with any spade combos and probably some 88-TT as well depending on sizing and action. In any case, betting these flops multiway looks incredibly strong, so I’m definitely a fan of taking less aggressive lines in multiway spots like this.

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