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February 2, 2013
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Hi, a friend of mine ( seriously I'm not talking about myself) was in a 50 euro live sit and go. 10 players.
8 players left and he is the big chip leader with 200,000 chips.
Blinds are 500\1,000 and he is in the big blind holding JJ.
Utg makes it 6,000 and it folds around to my friend who folds.
He explained to me that he is more than likely to be behind and does'nt need to get involved.
Id call hoping to hit a set or have an overpair on the flop.
What do you think?
June 7, 2012
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This fish thinks folding Js to a single raise pre is fishy…..I would say calling from the BB is not good as you have no idea where you are after the flop unless you hit your J, I would raise, and take control of the action, then evaluate. Take that with a grain of salt, look at my other posts, I am having issues with my play rt now too. 🙂
May 30, 2012
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I totally agree with Okie. If you are not going to play JJ from the bb from an UTG raise what are you doing. If you tell me it's a super TAG player who hasn't played a hand in quite a while, then maybe I'd understand that fold but that's just knitty IMO.
February 2, 2013
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Ah OkiellGa, please don't call me a fish
. The raiser is not a super tight player and might fold to a reraise which I would agree is probably the best play from BB.
There is the danger that the UTG raiser would 4 bet all in. He had about 90,000 chips.
June 7, 2012
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First, it was a self-deprecating remark about my play, not directed toward you in any way shape or form.
Second, if you do raise, which I still believe is the best move, then you can fold. In essence there is always a chance he will 4bet jam, but that is what we wanted, to find out where we were in the hand. If you raise to say 15k that is still only 8% of your stack, so you still has plenty of play. I also think a 6x raise UTG seems curious, he wanted the blinds and did not want a show down, meaning he knew his hand was vulnerable….of course this is readless nor do I know the game flow. Was a 6x BB raise the normal opening for the table?
February 2, 2013
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Oh sorry Ok, I understand. I must be paranoid about people calling me a fish.
6x pre was above the normal 3x for the game.
It looked like he had a vunerable hand and did not want any callers. I have seen him make this size of a raise with 9 9 and 10 10. There is a possibility that he could have AA.
I agree that the BB should have raised to at least 15,000 but I would expect the UTG to call at least 50% of the time. Of course the BB now has the lead in the hand and can fire at alot of flops.
January 14, 2013
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I doubt it was AA unless he is of the mentality that AA always gets cracked. Even fish try to extract value out of AA by slow playing them horribly or limping UTG then 3betting a raise. I would put him on what you saw him do it before with. 88-TT, hands he thinks is vulnerable. Its a common mistake because with a raise that big you are folding out the hands that you beat and only getting called by big PPs or AK. But he thinks its better to steal the blinds than see an A high flop and have to fold his oh so pretty TTs.
May 30, 2012
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Since the UTG guy raised it 6x. (SO BAD that raise) like others have said, prob 77-TT or AK AQ…….. just bad, IMO, you don't have to go crazy, make it 16k and if he 4bets you, reevaluate after the flop after you see what he does………. how many chips does HE have where he's opening from UTG w/ 6k?
*HOnestly, this is a SNG with some clueless players at times. Depending on what his stack size is……… I might give him the pile (STUFFY BAKER) pre. He might have TT 99 and think I'm jamming with AQ or AK………… Some times you have to push that big stack around. Because if he's got 50k and the flop comes………. 842 RB, I'm never folding JJ to any bet…….. He can have the 50k if he has AA, KK, QQ……….
*Its player and situation dependent in my book. What's the diff between 1st & 9th? ect………………………….. It matters at times, just saying
February 2, 2013
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He has abut 60,000 chips.
A feature of this game is the huge starting stack of 90,000 which often leads to big raises as a 3x raise can somtimes get multiple callers. The big starting stack leads to loose play and plenty of room for mistakes and still be well in the game. I have noticed that when we travel away to big games that we feel very shortstacked when we get a 15,000 starting stack.
Three prizes. 1st 250- 2nd 150 and 3rd 50
May 30, 2012
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If he has 60k…………….. I'm am DIFF 3betting and don't mind getting it in. You have the 4th strongest starting hand in poker. If he wakes up with AA KK QQ, so be it. I think it's very results oriented if you fold here and don't play your JJ……….. If so,why are you playing poker? Or………… Please tell me where I can come play in this type of game.
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