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folding a set on the flop?
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January 27, 2015 - 9:54 am
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First time poster on the forum. Was playing MSPT main event at best bet in jax. First tourny I've played over $100 buy in.

Tourny basics: great structure, 40 min levels 20 k starting stacks. There 421 runners. I was on day 2 15 left. 100 K up top, had 3 k for 15th.

Was in CO 20k/10k blinds with 4 k ante with approx 500 k stack, about avg stack guy on button and SB had similair stacks BB had about 700 K.

Action folded to me had 2 black 8s, min raised (min raised all opens from all positions) button, SB and BB all call.

Thought was with set would be able to play for stacks as all three would with top top or 2 pair.

Flop came out A 8 4 all hearts, checked around to me I bet 100 k. Button shoved all in for 380 k more.

He had shoved a few times before when he was short stacked, never showed down though, he had only been at table 10 min or so. I placed with on A9 plus with one heart, KQ h, or small suited connector with 2 hearts. I tanked for 5 min and folded. I had tried to play low varience poker for 2 straight days, and pick my spots, I think the odds were there to call, but did not think it was overwelmingly enough to put my tourny life on the line. Afterward went card dead was able to nit my way into 7th for 15k, after coming into final table 9th in chips. In retrospect thought if I called and won would have had a real shot at tourny would have been 2nd in chips at that point. Also though really wanted to make televised FT. Thanks for any help. Thank you to TPE for helping me get as far as I did.

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January 27, 2015 - 12:33 pm
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The worse possible hand he can have is AA, and at this stage I doubt anyone is slow playing aces.  If he has A8 or 44 you have him crushed, which I think is very likely.  If he has a pair plus draw or naked flush draw you have him drawing thin.  If he has a made flush, which he might choose to slow play sometimes so you can discount it a little bit, you still have good equity.  Unless there is an extreme ICM situation, like you're 2nd in chips vs chip leader with 6 super short stacks at the final table with life changing pay jumps (and even then I'm probably still going with it), you have to call here.

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January 27, 2015 - 1:17 pm
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I don't think someone would call your raise w AA with blinds behind and i don't think he would shove a flush after the flop either.. 

 

this might be the wrong way to think about strategy,  but when i am in the early to mid stages of a tournament I think folding mistakes are worse than calling mistakes…  i am trying to build my stack and folding too much inhibits this..  it is much easier to recover from a bad call when blinds are lower
 

late in a tournament, especially once in the money, I think calling mistakes are worse, one terrible call can devastate your chances of moving up to cash or to better cash…

 

you always know when you've made a calling mistake late in tournament… you get to think about it while you're walking to your car… and while you're driving home

 

at least with folding mistakes you still have a chance to recover…

 

so, I think you probably  did make a folding mistake….. but I don't think you should beat yourself up over this one., it sounds like you were able to keep it together after a hand that would throw a lot of people off and get an amazing payout your first time moving up in tournament stakes.   Congrats!!!!!!

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