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August 17, 2016
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I feel like I know my mistake in this hand but I’ll give you the details of the hand then you can decide what you think about what I put. (also I cant get the hand history thing to work 🙁 )
Playing the Hot $0.55 about 40 minutes in. Hero has 31bb and villain has 36bb
Blinds are 150/75 with 20 ante
Folds to me in the Cut Off with 5
5
I raise to 304. – Standard raise didn’t 3x because I only do that on occasion.
Folds to the BB who min 3 bets to 458. – I feel like this could be one of 3 things; it could be him 3beting for no reason hoping I’ll fold for some reason, or I’ve seen some fish do this with their monsters as they know they’re supposed to 3bet big hands but don’t want me to fold my JTo etc. or I genuinely think it could be a misclick. I feel the 2nd is most likely in hindsight but at this point I was very confused as I only had 6 hands on this guy. So as you can tell from the title I call getting like 8 to 1. I didn’t think a 4bet made much sense as I can call in position and hope to flop a set and maybe trap.
I assigned this a decent range for villian to 3bet from the BB ignoring the weird sizing. 66+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,AJo+,KQo 55 has about 39% against this range.
Pot is now 1171 (just under 8bb)
Flop: A
,Q,5
Ah well be careful what you wish for I suppose… Villain continues for 300 again this sizing is weird and I don’t know what to make of it. I feel like he’s some sort of fish who doesn’t know how to size either his value or his bluffs but I don’t know what this is at all. I call here hoping the board pairs on a later street which would let me comfortably get all the money in. Also plugged this into Equilab against his preflop raise a set of fives is now about 78% to win. I feel like he can c-bet almost his entire range here, even the smallish pairs like 66-99 if they have a heart in them. He could be cbeting with air of course as a suited board can be scary.
Pot is now 1771 (just under 12bb) Hero has about 26bb behind
Turn: 10
Another pretty bad card here some gutters get there and some pairs pick up a gutter increasing their equity, I regret not raising the flop here, villain bet 300 weird sizing is weird, I just call again hoping for a blank river and another small bet. I don’t see the point in raising, if he’s bluffing this size I feel he’d just continue this size on the river making it a simple call, and I only really get called by better like flushes and straights, or maybe like a pair with a straight draw and a flush draw, or some two pair and maybeeee if he’s bad some top pair. But a lot of those hands have so much equity against me.
Pot is now 2371 (just under 16 bb) Hero has 24bb behind
River: J
Ayyy so many things that I was beating is now beating me, villain bets 1350 and I fold thinking I only beat the random idiot factor (which is a term me and my friends use to mean sometimes people just do dumb things without thinking like shoving 46o or something like that) like so the hands I feel he could maybe triple barrel from the range I originally assigned him is like AA, KK (with a ), QQ, JJ (with a ), TT, AK, AQ, AJ/AT (debatable), KQ (with a ) and KJ. Against his unedited ranged that I posted from the start 55 is now 51% on that run out. If i change his range to what I think he’d triple barrel on that board, 55 had 39% equity and I need to win 36% of the time with a bet of 1350. So against his value I should call, assuming he bluffs 0% which I feel like he still will bluff sometimes, I just feel the sudden change of size indicates something like JJ or a straight or something.
So those are my thoughts at 4:18am but tell me what you think, am I just thinking about too many monsters under the bed, should I have raised the flop or the turn? Should I have called the river, please tell me I’m the fish in this hand, I don’t mind as long as you have to courtesy to tell me why to help me improve.
Much love, llinoscarpe
June 2, 2013
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Having note his betting size would help here, but without any read on this V, I would reraise flop, but not too big, about 888, V can be on a flush draw, and be betting weak as a block bet, he will probably call here, and you can go all in OTT if he leads small or not.
If V is on AA QQ unlucky, a flush too, but you will have more outs to a full house or quads.
River is weird when V goes 1350 instead of 300, there is Kx and flushes that beat you, and two pairs that probably go with this line too, I can go either way here, fold or a call.
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August 4, 2016
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I think I’m always going to raise flop here. And if I’m not raising flop, then for sure turn. He just has so many hands we’re ahead of and only 2 we lose to. Your turn thoughts are a little contradicting in that you say he probably picks up more equity with gutters but you just want to call and see a safe river. Also his sizing indicates something weaker, most likely Ax with a flush or straight draw that we can’t let see more cards for that cheap. If he does have AA/QQ, that’s pretty unlucky. And if he flopped a flush, we have some outs. So I’d be pretty comfortable getting this in on the flop or turn.
Folding river as played. Wouldn’t expect him to size up on the river with 2 pair. Looks like AK at that point.
February 20, 2015
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As played definitely folding the river. Weak players that suddenly change the bet size are much more likely to be strong than weak. I think it’s because they suddenly care about what’s going on so they aren’t doing their default action. It doesn’t make sense to me that they would do this with a bluff.
I would have raised on the turn but to about 1100. It’s a larger raise in that it’s 3.7x, but this is off of a 28%-ish c-bet, so if I want to give him worse odds to call, I want to raise more than I otherwise would. Curious what others think about that.
I now have slightly less than a pot-size bet left. If I get bet into again, it would probably be 300 again, based on the profile you give this player. If I didn’t improve I would probably call, otherwise raise. This type of player bets and bets small because he has SOMETHING but not EVERYTHING. So that can be top pair/2-pair combos. And, we would have now seen that V will call a raise and still bet on a subsequent street, meaning he is really in his own world, playing his own hand, and not paying attention to what we have done. So it’s strictly a value raise.
I don’t know that this is a good strategy. I know it’s what I’ve done. Sometimes when I see a bad player, I get so caught up in knowing I can outplay them that I will inadvertently do stupid shit that causes me to essentially play down to their level. That’s actually a big reason why I am a member here, to stop doing that.
August 17, 2016
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Yeah the advice is coming through loud and clear guys 
raising the flop is almost certainly the way to go and if for some reason not, well raise the turn, just wanted some better player’s views and I appreciate that I butchered this hand. Look forward to more hands on here, thanks for taking the time to reply.
Much love llinoscarpe
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August 25, 2012
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Very much agree with raising flop or turn. In both instances there are too many bad cards that could come off to make slowplaying comfortable. You want to slowplay on boards with very few draws, not these kinds of very dynamic boards.
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