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Villain just got moved to table about an orbit and a half prior and had not played a pot so i had no reads(but he was european). he did see me 3Bet Jam my K3s and bink the river to double up, So my image was pretty bad at this point. Ok so pretty fun flop, Im pretty much obligated to lead considering how fun this flop was. I had been c-betting like this a lot so I figured I had to protect all the times I had air and bet trips. When he calls the flop I had him on 9x, 
's, some kind of combo draw, or floating me plannin on making a move on later streets. WWYD on flop?
Turn is pretty safe So i lead again, lookin back I think its too small. But I was tryn to get him to spaz if he was jus floating. WWYD?
His range doesnt really change much when he calls the turn as hes gettn the right price to call any draw.
OTR I really didnt want to check and have him check back a 9 or any other pair he might of had and I really wanted to get 3 streets. Any chance if I bet here he sees my bet as like 10's+ and raises his mid flushes/ spazs and trys to rep the flush? If im betting whats your bet size? If your in the villians spot with a seven to Jack high flush which is scarier; a pot sized bet or around half pot bet? are u snapping both? Is the sexiest line always a c/r in this spot? let me know what u guys think
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Full Tilt Poker Super Stack $15K Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1000 – 7 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
LuizOrrico (MP): BB = 138.8, t1387945
geovanejonh (CO): BB = 90.3, t902860
wvsocc24 (BTN): BB = 38.1, t381102
APAllDay612 (SB): BB = 48.5, t484952
IceRoro (BB): BB = 109.5, t1094538
crodawg97 (UTG): BB = 19.1, t191352
Tha_Notebook (UTG+1): BB = 48.0, t480343
Pre Flop: (t22000) APAllDay612 is SB with 3
3
5 folds, APAllDay612 raises to t27789, IceRoro calls t17789
Flop: (t62578) 6 9
3 (2 players)
APAllDay612 bets t25789, IceRoro calls t25789
Turn: (t114156) 4
(2 players)
APAllDay612 bets t38789, IceRoro calls t38789
River: (t191734) 4 (2 players)
APAllDay612 ???
October 6, 2010
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i dont like your bet sizing throughout this hand.
on a pretty draw heavy board, i would be betting at least 40k on this flop. for some reason i hate betting less than my PFR as well, just seems fishy to me. i would only ever bet this small if i had a read that the other guy was a lagtard and will jam over it with just about anything.
once again, turn bet is way too small imo. its almost like you are putting out blockers, but i think this is a hand that we can pretty safely get it in with on a non spade.
river is the perfect card for you, i reckon you could just about overbet jam here, i think villain's range is mostly flushes and i think a lot of them will call. but i much prefer betting more on each street as it makes it much easier for you to get it in.
if you bet 39k on the flop, pot is 144k on the turn, then you can bet 85, makes pot 340 and you will have 330 left so you can shove river.
bennymacca said:
but i much prefer betting more on each street as it makes it much easier for you to get it in.
if you bet 39k on the flop, pot is 144k on the turn, then you can bet 85, makes pot 340 and you will have 330 left so you can shove river.
+1
damn haha I guess i really fugged this 1 up
he had 82ss
i bet half pot on riv and he jus called 🙁 sigh
live and learn
i'm with the other guys, bet sizing was to small. your giving him odds to chase and if the river does not pair board ul. and with the sizing being bigger then you possibly get him all in on riv.
June 25, 2010
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it's not really about “not giving him the odds”, you should increase your bet size b/c you are obv way ahead of his complete range (made hands+draws) and you want to punish him for all of his chips by allowing yourself to get stacks in by the river. I would also overbet shove the river if I was in this spot as you are not getting called by random two pair hands when you bet river here as the only hand he can possibly beat at this point is a bluff, so you assume you are only getting called by flushes+, and I doubt he is ever folding a flush, so you might as well jam and get max value.
June 11, 2010
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I think what jshilling said is a really important concept. On hands like these the main goal you should be striving for is to figure out how to get stacks in on the river. Given the board there is a lot you can do to make him think that he is good so grabbing max value (especially from a chasing flush) shouldn't be too hard. Just remember with your bet sizing on these types of hands, try to figure out how to size it up to get it all in there by the end.
to reiterate, something like…. 28k pre, 42k flop, 85k turn, this gets pot to about 318, and u have around 320 left.
I really dont hate the flop bet all that much, but that turn bet is awful, i mean what are you accomplishing with that bet?. That river card is amazing, and should be 3/4-pot betting this card like 100% for value.
appreciate the feedback guys
these are the type of leaks I came to TPE to fix!
bennymacca said:
i dont like your bet sizing throughout this hand.
on a pretty draw heavy board, i would be betting at least 40k on this flop. for some reason i hate betting less than my PFR as well, just seems fishy to me. i would only ever bet this small if i had a read that the other guy was a lagtard and will jam over it with just about anything.
once again, turn bet is way too small imo. its almost like you are putting out blockers, but i think this is a hand that we can pretty safely get it in with on a non spade.
river is the perfect card for you, i reckon you could just about overbet jam here, i think villain's range is mostly flushes and i think a lot of them will call. but i much prefer betting more on each street as it makes it much easier for you to get it in.
if you bet 39k on the flop, pot is 144k on the turn, then you can bet 85, makes pot 340 and you will have 330 left so you can shove river.
This is perfect
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