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October 18, 2016
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This was in the middle stage of a home game on pokerstars. Everyone folded to villain and me both in BB and SB respectively. We both have the largest stacks by far. I open raised with Qs7s to steal the blinds figuring he might not want to go heads-up against the other big stack and I planned to fold to a reraise. He called and I made a flush on the flop. Villain is a versatile player. In this kind of situation I’ve seen him slow play KK+, reraise with air of small suited connectors. I made a pot sized bet for value since I know he folds to continuation bets 45% of the time. I hoped he hit a top pair, straight draw or even a set. The turn card is harmless so I make another pot sized bet. He goes all-in. Since I’m pot committed with a flush and no possibility of being up against a full house I call. He had the nut flush. Was it worth my tournament life since I would have probably made it to the money given the relative stack sized of the rest of the field?
Thanks
No Limit Hold’em Tournament T200/T400
Buy-in: €5.00+€0.50 EUR Hold’em No Limit
PokerStars
7 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com: Poker HUD for Mac and Windows
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T3,470)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (T1,262)
MP – MP (T14,603)
CO – CO (T4,138)
BTN – BTN (T3,271)
SB – Hero (T23,348)
BB – BB (T24,908)
Preflop: (T950, 7 players) Hero is SB with 7♠ Q♠
5 folds, Hero raises to T1,400, BB calls T1,000
Flop: 9♠ K♠ T♠ (T3,150, 2 players – Hero: T21,898, BB: T23,458)
Hero bets T3,150, BB calls T3,150
Turn: 2♣ (T9,450, 2 players – Hero: T18,748, BB: T20,308)
Hero bets T9,450, BB raises to T20,308 (all-in), Hero calls T9,298 (all-in), Uncalled bet of T1,560 returned to BB
River: 8♦ (T46,946, 2 players, 1 all-in – Hero: T0, BB: T1,560)
Total Pot: T46,946
Hero shows 7♠ Q♠ (a flush, King high)
BB shows A♠ 8♠ (a flush, Ace high)
BB wins T46,946
May 20, 2015
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Whilst this seems like a bad beat story I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and respond.
It’s hard to quantify the worth of your tournament life which makes the original question difficult to answer in any meaningful way. If you mean ‘should I be folding this at any point?’ the answer is a very clear no, you should be trying as hard as you can to get stacks in. Your sizing seems too big throughout by the way, you will struggle to get value from a wide range of hands that would call a smaller sizing.
October 18, 2016
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Hi. Thanks for the reply. Not meant to be a bad beat story. I agree with you on the sizing.
May 1, 2016
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Yeah, the only thing I see here is sizing issues. Otherwise, you flopped the second nuts and ran into the nuts. Sometimes you do everything right and lose anyway. If you were to even think about folding the turn, you can ask yourself, “does he play Js8s, 5s6s, 8s6s, 8s7s, and all other combination of flopped flushes the same way?” I’d say it’s a likely yes. You could argue with the lower flopped flushes that he’s not defending them to your raise (although many players defened atc from the bb to a sb raise, quite correctly IMHO), but for the most part I think you stack off here gladly, and see a lower flush, a set, or even As 10h sometimes too.
Unlucky.
June 2, 2013
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Do you always bet this big?
When you 3.5x bvb, the range os BB defending is quite smaller than when you 2 or 2.5x.
On that flop, when V calls a PSB I would be cautious, probably stacking off anyways if another spade dont hit, but his range should not be weak I think, two pairs and str8, flush too, maybe a FD with Ace, but strong aces most likely to 3bet pre flop, but also V is capable of slowplaying as you said.
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