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Floping nuts in massive 4way pot
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April 8, 2018 - 4:10 am
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$16,50 PSKO on Pokerstars

PokerStars – 1250/2500 Ante 380 NL – Holdem – 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 69.08 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 18.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
UTG: 20.58 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 50)
UTG+1: 7.43 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 110)
MP: 18.24 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 6.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
MP+1: 17.42 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 20.26 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 50)
BTN: 29.21 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 50)
Hero (SB): 55.65 BB

8 players post ante of 0.15 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.72 BB) Hero has Aclub 5spade

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (5.22 BB, 4 players) 3diamond 2club 4spade
Hero checks, BB bets 5.22 BB, MP+1 calls 5.22 BB, BTN calls 5.22 BB,

Hero? 

Hero raises to 18 BB, BB raises to 67.93 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 11.05 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 36.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (135.7 BB, 3 players) Qheart

River: (135.7 BB, 3 players) Qclub

Hero shows Aclub 5spade (Straight, Five High)

Main Pot [59.24 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 75%, Turn 87%)
Side Pot#1 [76.46 BB]: (Pre 64%, Flop 81%, Turn 90%)

BB shows 2diamond 3heart (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)

Main Pot [59.24 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 18%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#1 [76.46 BB]: (Pre 36%, Flop 19%, Turn 10%)

MP+1 shows 4club Aheart (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)

Main Pot [59.24 BB]: (Pre 34%, Flop 7%, Turn 4%)

Hero wins 135.7 BB

 

I flopped the 2nd best hand. BB (who is a big stack) bets full pot, 2 other players calls. 

There was some discussion on my Twitch stream what was the right play there. Should I just call, to keep other players in the pot? 

Should I raise or go all in? If they all go for full pot bet, I’d say there is 95% chance that I will have at least 1 caller (especially one guy being the short stack) 

Please note it’s a saturday bounty tournament on Pokerstars, deeper phase, so those bounties are quite big. 

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Easy raise, and these results illustrate why. The reason to slowplay is not to “keep people in” nor is keeping people in the primary goal when you have a strong hand. The goal is to play a big pot, and the default should be to bet or raise when you have a strong hand. The times when you would make an exception to that (slowplay) is when you have reason to believe that your opponents are not interested in their hands. Here it’s just the opposite – people are already putting money in the pot, so clearly they like their hands. Letting more cards come out is more likely to change things in bad ways for you, than in good ways. I have a whole video dedicated to slowplaying in my Getting Paid series.

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Thanks Andrew for your response. I was pretty sure that’s the right play, just got concerned by the guys in the chat. 

I am readjusting my game lately based also based on your Bounty $44 HH video, where you used large bet sizing, and I must admit it gives tremendous results. 

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