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January 23, 2013
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I wasn't able to get the hand history coverter to work. (Does it not work?). . but here is the hand. .
Hand#3227CF099E001567 – $2,000 GTD R&A T13568414 — CASH — $5 + $0.5 — 9 Max — Table 16 — 1000/5000/10000 NL Hold'em — 2013/02/04 – 15:09:46
Dealer: Seat 10
Seat 1: Hero in SB (362,585 in chips)
Seat 2: BB (80,900 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG (159,695 in chips)
Seat 9: Cut-off (163,738 in chips)
Seat 10: BTN (66,082 in chips)
Hero: posts ante of 1,000
BB: posts ante of 1,000
UTG: posts ante of 1,000
Cut-off: posts ante of 1,000
BTN: posts ante of 1,000
Hero: posts small blind 5,000
BB: posts big blind 10,000
Dealt to Hero [As,Kd]
UTG: folds
Cut-off: is all in 162,738
BTN: is all in 65,082
Interesting Hand came up in recent Lock tourny Final Table. I am in the small blind with 43% of the chips in play. I have over twice the next largest stack with 362k (36bb) in chips blinds 5k-10k. Two stacks relatively small. Cut-off has been playing many hands. Willing to get it all in. BTN has been very conservative and hasn't played many pots. I have AK off-suit in the small blind. Cut-off shoves all in for 160k or 16BB. BTN, has 66k or 6BB. He calls the all in. I have AK off suit in the small blind. .
What do I do?
February 3, 2013
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I’m definitely shoving here the more conservative player probably has a pair and cutoffs range is so wide it almost certainly has a weaker ace or king, I’m very interested in what other people would do cause this hand could definitely change the table dynamics up… If you fold nothing really changes your going to have a 20 bb stack or 2 10bb stacks on your right. However if call and cutoff doubles at least money is still on your right side and you still have a healthy stack to shove down his throat on lp raises… I dunno my 2 cents.
May 30, 2012
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Kinda tough, but I Jam as well, You do have AK…….. now, lets see all 5 cards. Not sure why he would do that with you still to act. I think your good. What really makes sense here. He should be doing this with AA-99, Ak AQ maybe………. Even if you miss, you still have a good stack. You could fold, not saying that that would be a horrible play. ME, I would say 90% jam 10% fold, I'm lying about 9% of that folding, lol. SHIP IT
July 10, 2012
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I dont agree with jamming here. I prefer calling.
….you see what i did there? 
May 30, 2012
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Ok, I agree, calling is MUCH better play, lol.
January 23, 2013
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well, I did jam. .and since I am posting you can probably bet the result of the hand. .was the beginning of my downfall. cutoff had 66, BTN had AA. .I didn't improve so I lost to both. . but I still think I made the right play. I considered folding for about 3 seconds. . but it seemed awful nitty to fold and I want to win the whole thing
Thanks for the feed back!
June 7, 2012
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I do the same thing when I lose in spots where I would think it would be obv…I need verification, you did. Especially when the blinds are so outrageous vs the stacks. If everyone was deeper, I could see a fold, just not against these stacks.
January 14, 2013
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I guess I'm the only one who would fold this? The best case senario is that they turn over AQ and AJ but how likely is that since you have one of the aces? You ran into the worst case senario but the one I feel is the most standard despite one of them having aces. I think at least one of them will be flipping over TT+ in this situation.
I don't think its your job to try and knock out these two at once. They are short and they are on your right and one of them will take care of the other for you. Wait it out.
January 23, 2013
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To watch4sharx point. . like I said, I did consider folding for a few seconds, but I think the decision to fold is only correct with the results in hind site. The cut-off had a very wide range. at least a10 and better, perhaps some suited broadway cards, of courase any pair, and there is a chance it was just air. with that range in mind, when the button made his decision, since he was the extreme short stack, he would have shoved with any pair, and probably AJ and above. (pair being the most likely).
The only hands they can have that put me in really bad shape are AA and KK which I have a blocker to each. AS it turned out, i was only 6% to win. but given that 88 through QQ was just as likely as KK and AA, I think I have to call because baring those two hands, I am 35% to win the whole pot. Even if one of them has kings I am still 25% to win the whole pot.
Also remember, even if I lose I have a decent stack.
And to your point of “one of them” taking care of another, as it resulted, infact, their chip stacks would have just flipped. . so nothing really would have changed for me.
So with some clarity now, I am pretty sure it is the right decision to call. In most situtations I am 35% to knock out 2 players with a call. Unforetutately. . I ran into the situtation where I was only a 6% favorite. .
May 30, 2012
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pretty happy calling here, prob calling AQo+ JJ+ 1010/AJs are close
January 22, 2013
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someone shoving 16BB should have a pretty tigh range even from the CO and once the BT goes allin we likely are only a 5% favorite over reasonable ranges (something like 35-34% equity CEV wise) and that doesn't factor in any ICM. Still profitable likely, but don't high five and think its a slam dunk
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