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Jakebuckley
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November 6, 2016 - 5:58 am
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My first post so be nice guys if iv done this wrong! 

In my local casino tournament the blinds go up every 20 mins iv got 44bb I’m on the button have 2 flat calls before it gets to me then I raise 3x bb with 1010 small blind calls then the first flat caller calls then the player next jams for 27 bb. He has been playing fairly loose.  I call with the 1010 right play? He has jq and flops two Qq 

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November 6, 2016 - 7:32 am
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Hello!

Welcome to TPE!

Your sizing pre flop is too small with two limpers, 4 or 5bb, maybe 6bb if all are deep, like 44bb effective stacks.

I don´t give the second limper a strong range, unless he thinks someone will raise behind pre flop, he will wake up with monsters rarely IMO, I dont give people credit for it; so I would give him a range of 77-22, A9s-A2s, KJs-K8s, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, A9o-A2o, KJo-KTo, QTo+, JTo, or something like this. Against this range, TT is 70% favorite, and with all the dead money in the pot is a very profitable iso/all in for you.

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November 6, 2016 - 1:06 pm
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Agree with the last post, raise-call is fine but sizing needs to be bigger. Unlucky.

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Welcome Jake.

First of all, I recommend looking through the MTT forum to see the way that’s others post their hand histories to get an idea of the easiest way to express the required information. You’ll notice things like stack sizes, reads on other players/stats, position, and chip amounts (not just BBs) can be important. Some blind levels have bigger antes which will allow for different strategies; sometimes there are good players behind you you need to be wary of.

In this scenario, raise/calling off is fine, and I’m actually quite excited to GII here with TT. That being said, preflop size is way too small. As you play around with raise sizes with limpers in front of you you’ll find what works for you, but there’s a baseline I started at when I was younger; namely, add BBs for every limper. If you normally raise to 3 BBs, and there are two limpers, maybe make it 5 or even 6 BBs. The more money there is in the pot when it gets to you, the more you should be raising IMO.

I actually had an incredibly similar situation at the LAPT a month ago where I had TT in late position after 3 limps in front of me. I made it 6 BBs to go, which in retrospect is even a little small IMHO. I ended up flopping a set and winning a huge pot, but the reasoning behind the raise sizing preflop is the same. You don’t want to take a hand like TT four ways, or even 3. Heads up the hand performs so much better. When you do take it multi way, like I was forced to take it 5 ways in thaty situation even after my raise (showing the argument for even a bigger raise size), you are forced to set mine with a very strong hand which is unfortunate.

In this case, you got put in a race where you’re a favorite with a LOT of dead money in the pot. Look at it this way. Once it gets to you the first time, there is (assuming a total of 1 BB in antes) 4.5 BBs in the pot (0.5 from SB, 1 from BB, 2 from the callers, and 1 from the antes). You make it 3, which we’ve discussed should probably be a little bigger but we’re taking it as played, then after the action gets back to you again there is now 38 BBs in the pot (4.5 from before, your 3 BBs, 2.5 more from the SB, 2 more from the first caller, and 26 more from the shove) and you have to call 24. Forget the fact that you’re a favorite, you can call here with hands that are underdogs, as long as they have the right equity needed to make the call. If you’d like help on an equity calculation, PM me.

Hope I helped!

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November 12, 2016 - 4:08 am
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Hey OP, welcome to the forum! 

I recently played my first live tournament after several years of playing the micro stakes online, and one of the main things I noticed was that people are much stickier, so I agree with the other posters in saying that your re-raise size should be bigger, but would in fact argue to size it slightly larger than what would be GTO simply to exploit their tendencies unless you have a different read on them. 

As is, I think Almofadinhas has ranged villain accurately from your description and I would be nearly snap calling the shove as played. 

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