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Facing all-in on a very draw-heavy board
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May 27, 2018 - 6:37 pm
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$3,3 Mini Sunday Rebuy on Pokerstars, with ~300 players remaining. 

PokerStars – 4500/9000 Ante 900 NL – Holdem – 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 10.29 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 54)
Hero (UTG+1): 39.93 BB
MP: 13.27 BB (VPIP: 14.85, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
MP+1: 17.37 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 19)
CO: 44.55 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 18)
BTN: 5.25 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 15)
SB: 47.41 BB (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 88)
BB: 24.94 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 8diamond Qdiamond

fold, Hero raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.1 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) Jspade 8spade Qspade
BB checks, Hero bets 3.83 BB, BB raises to 22.74 BB and is all-in,

Hero ? 

Hero calls 18.92 BB

Turn: (50.99 BB, 2 players) 6diamond

River: (50.99 BB, 2 players) 4heart

BB shows Aspade 2diamond (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 55%, Flop 36%, Turn 20%)
Hero shows 8diamond Qdiamond (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 45%, Flop 64%, Turn 80%)
Hero wins 50.99 BB

 

I had some problem with defining Villains check-shoving range at this spot, and identifying hands that I beat. 

I’d give him a value shoving range of a straight, any two-pair combos, low-card flushes, off-suit Q with A or K of spades(not always though). 

In his bluffing range I would give him pretty much only off-suit hands with some strong spade (A or K). 

So if I defined Villain’s range correctly, I beat barely anything from his value range, and against his bluff range, I’m in decent, but not-so-great shape. Should I call in this spot? What are your thoughts on the range I gave to V?

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That’s a reasonable range. It’s fine to do that kind of back-of-the-envelope reasoning in game – you have to – but when you analyze hands away from the table, you really ought to use an equity calculator and look at what exactly your equity is against some specific ranges.

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At this stack depth I’m going with some hands worse than two pair here so I can’t really imagine finding a fold. As much as villain will defend a lot of suited hands from the BB, and will have decent equity against you with any reasonable shove, you’re going to have a hard time narrowing their range to the point where you’re not getting an excellent price.

Calling 19bb to win a pot of 51bb you need 37.3% equity vs. range. As mentioned by Andrew, I highly recommend plugging this board into a program like Equilab and giving villain a variety of ranges. Understanding how your hand shapes up against a wide variety of ranges will help you confidently navigate similar spots in the future.

Not sure you want to be opening Q8s from early position. Did you have a particular reason for opening wide?

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Q8s is not in my standard opening range UTG+1. However the table was very passive and I tried to take advantage of it. 

Also it’s a $3 big-field tournament in fairly deep stage. I felt like my opponents might be somewhat hesitant to play too aggressive (which my read on the table seemed to confirm). 

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