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Easy fold on river ?
Lance Freeman
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July 6, 2010 - 1:12 pm
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This is another gay spot ive been put in countless times this month.. is the river an easy fold?  I thought i was beat but was sooooo fkn frustrated i just clicked the fkn call btn… i even went through the hand ranges he could have before doing it and was like well I guess QJ or KJ and still clicked call

Full Tilt Poker $17,500 KO Guarantee No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

UTG: BB = 82.2, t16444
Pioshe (UTG+1): BB = 69.4, t13871
UTG+2: BB = 32.2, t6440
MP1: BB = 29.2, t5849
MP2: BB = 62.2, t12437
CO: BB = 51.3, t10265
BTN: BB = 68.2, t13639
SB: BB = 24.8, t4954
BB: BB = 57.8, t11562

Pre Flop: (t300) Pioshe is UTG+1 with T[Image Can Not Be Found] T[Image Can Not Be Found]
1 fold, Pioshe raises to t455, 4 folds, BTN calls t455, 1 fold, BB calls t255

Flop: (t1465) T[Image Can Not Be Found] 7[Image Can Not Be Found] 9[Image Can Not Be Found] (3 players)
BB checks, Pioshe bets t800, BTN calls t800, BB folds

Turn: (t3065) 4[Image Can Not Be Found] (2 players)
Pioshe bets t1600, BTN calls t1600

River: (t6265) 8[Image Can Not Be Found] (2 players)
Pioshe checks, BTN bets t3600, Pioshe requests TIME, Pioshe calls t3600

Final Pot: t13465
Pioshe mucks Td Tc
BTN shows Jh Qc (a straight, Queen high)
BTN wins t13465

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July 6, 2010 - 2:29 pm
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I don’t know…The draws that are out there are an inside straight and a flush.  Can’t really expect him to keep calling you with QJ after the turn is a blank.  Your turn bet is a little too small though imo.

 

This could be TP or a busted FD enough to make it a call i think.

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July 6, 2010 - 3:26 pm
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yeah i pay off here too.  with the gutshot getting there I’m pretty rarely putting him on the straight, especially when a random 8x just made two pair quite a bit.  if the river was an obvious oesd-completing card (J or 6 in this case) then I’d be more likely to fold.

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3 to see the flop and it hits their ranges, Im betting more and if I get called I may over bet the turn. I would be happy taking it down there. By playing it this way we are certain they are on a draw, if they come back over the top or shove thats fine. If they call and a card comes on the river that hits the draws and they get aggro we have to go with our read and fold.

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I size my bets a lot bigger here, too. I’m probably making an 80% pot bet on the flop and a similar one on the Turn. Maybe even an overbet as previously suggested. It’s a draw heavy flop and a multi-way pot. Hammer it to get them out of there.

If the fish keep calling and get there? Well… good job hanging tough, buddy. Haha.

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