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do you think this kind of tourny is it worth to play at casino?
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July 31, 2011 - 2:39 am
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this kind of tourny the structure is it too fast? or just ok?
 
and how do you play this kind of tourny?
 
this tourny always have a 100 people to play and pay to 10 player
 
first get $3650
 
second $1930
 
third   $1020
 
4)$810   5)$610       6)$610   7)$510  8)$410  9)$300   10)$200
 
 
 
sometime when i play just wait for the good hand , but when i get the good hand, i alway have 10BB to  15BB
 
so, want to ask you guy? when you push, will you using like (kill everyone's push chart or sheets push chart) or will you play diffierent when

you play short stack ?and how much bankroll need to play this kind of tourny? i really want to know? ty

 

$100 dollar tourny and starting chip is  $6000 
 
 
round(20 min round) blinds             ante
 1                             25-50  
 2                             50-100
 3                             75-150
 4                            100-200
 5                             200-400             25
 6                             300-600            50
 7                             400-800             75
 8                             600-1200            100
 9                             800-1600            200
 10                           1000-2000          300
 11                           1500-3000         500
 12                           2k-4k                 500
 13                           3k-6k                  500
 14                            4k-8k                    1k
 15                             6k-12k                  2k
 16                             8k-16k                 3k
 17                             10k-20k                4k
 18                             15k-30k                5k
 19                           20k-40k                   5k
 20                           30k-60k                10k
 21                           60k-120k               15k

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July 31, 2011 - 6:45 am
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i guess its a 100$ tourney, right?

the blind structure seems pretty standard to me, at my local casinos its pretty much the same at their daily tourneys.

whaz the starting stack?

around here its normally 10-20k,

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July 31, 2011 - 12:14 pm
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yes! that is 100 dollar tourny. and starting chip is 6000

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I play this kind of tourney in AC every saturday at Harrahs' or Borgata.  You can't sit and wait for premium's.  You need to play a bit.  if not, you're going to get blinded out.  Plus, in tourney's like this, there are going ot be a bunch of players who are donks.  They are going to be floating a lot and hit miracle cards, so be careful of that. 

 

Pierre

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July 31, 2011 - 11:29 pm
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and when you guy have 10BB to 15BB stack, will you guy using (kill everyone's push chart or pxf sheets push chart) to play. is it just for online or can it be for live?

or you guy will adjust? play tight for push like this kind of tourny?

ex. 200/400 ante(850) M is 6 $5100 in chip

will you push (66+,AQ+,ATs+kTs+,QTs+,JTs) UTG

(44+,ATo+,A8s+,KQo,K9s+,Q9s+J9s+T9s) m 2

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The structure plays out like an online turbo tourny imo. You always have to adjust to your table wether being live or online. If they're calling you off light then push tighter otherwise the opposite. Just play your opponents according to your image and theirs and just play good poker and you'll do fine over a fair sample.

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August 2, 2011 - 2:26 am
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so , how big the bankroll i need to play this kind of tourny?

20 buy in will it be enough?

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August 2, 2011 - 9:20 am
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Just because the variance can be brutal due the quick structure id say 20 is yelljustyell a little tight.

25-30 means you could play every day for a month and probably be in profit with at least a second place(or top 3 chop)

Play this structure a lot. Its at least 7hours+ to win, so run deep or fail is the optimal strategy.
Though youre reasonably deep first 4 levels, it hurts when the antes kick in.
Set mine/get it in early, look to double/treble up before 5th level then push/fold/squeeze.

No room to play very tight, try and be 'creative' or you'll die the slow and painfull death of the nit confused

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I have some nash push/call charts (with anties) if you want to pm me
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August 2, 2011 - 10:54 am
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The variance might not be as brutal as you'd think because the field will be insanely soft and there will be many who have no clue about a solid push/fold strat and will attempt to limp and play post-flop poker deeper in this MTT which is a fatal flaw.

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FkCoolers said:

The variance might not be as brutal as you'd think because the field will be insanely soft

 

Yeh maybe variance isnt quite the word, more to fact youre rarely outplayed but more likely to be 'outdonked' is a constant head f### if you play a lot of these.

tpnk is the nuts or so the thinking goes.

The fact that very few are stack size aware give ample opportunitys to steal/chip up.

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August 2, 2011 - 9:42 pm
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its variance in the sense that players will call 2 barrells with bottom pair and river 2 pair, rather than the variance associated with flipping and losing.

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August 3, 2011 - 11:23 am
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bennymacca said:

its variance in the sense that players will call 2 barrells with bottom pair and river 2 pair, rather than the variance associated with flipping and losing.

yeh what he said cool

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August 3, 2011 - 10:33 pm
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Kouman said:

No room to play very tight, try and be 'creative' or you'll die the slow and painfull death of the nit confused

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Love this line.  smile

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August 3, 2011 - 10:38 pm
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These casino tourneys play a lot like the 1500 starting stack tourneys on Bodog.  Really hard to wade through all the tards and build a stack.  You're going to get called on multiple streets by bottom pair…just play heads up pots in position (which can be hard since the blinds often won't fold preflop) and try to have equity when you're barrelling.  When they show aggression usually they've got it.

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August 4, 2011 - 6:03 am
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As far as which push/folds to lean towards, I would go with Sheets'. Kill push/folds suggest pushing with a wider range which may result in more situations where you will more likely be a bigger dog if called.

I wouldn't tighten my shoving range much more than Sheets' charts though. That gets the job done imo in these live donkfests which results in folding out better hands much more often than online.

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1.utg palyer limp (i know he won't call my raise)10bb push all in with A 10 from mid position, big blind call me with 57s with 9bb. he make a flush. damn over kill

 

2. A 10 all in with 12bb, Big blind call me with 66. hit 6 full . over over kill me again

 

3.  e1 limp and m3 limp, i raise all in with 10 10 with 15bb both call with above12BB to 10BB. they have 44 and 66 hit set , super over kill.

 

live tounry is very hard for me to play

 

 

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