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Do you make this play with JJ??
ltcolumbo
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August 26, 2015 - 6:31 pm
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MTT $20+$2 – Hold'em No Limit (150/300)
Table '#22 9' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: UTGplus2 (27,020 in chips)
Seat 2: UTGplus3 (11,232 in chips)
Seat 3: UTGplus4 (6,940 in chips)
Seat 4: UTGplus5 (11,429 in chips)
Seat 5: Dealer (7,977 in chips)
Seat 6: Small Blind (17,062 in chips)
Seat 7: Big Blind (15,186 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG (18,778 in chips)
Seat 9: columbo (13,397 in chips)
columbo: posts the ante 30
Small Blind: posts small blind 150
Big Blind: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to columbo [Jd Js]
UTG: folds
columbo: raises 700 to 700
UTGplus2: folds
UTGplus3: raises 2124 to 2124
UTGplus4: folds
UTGplus5: folds
Dealer: raises 7947 to 7947 and is all-in

 

I had a strong read here that I was going to see AK vs. Ax…

Action?

 


 

Small Blind: folds
Big Blind: folds
columbo: raises 12667 to 13367 and is all-in
UTGplus3: calls 9078 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4h 3h Ks]
*** TURN *** [4h 3h Ks] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [4h 3h Ks 4c] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UTGplus3: shows [Kd Ad] (two pair, Kings and Aces)
Dealer: shows [Tc Ac] (a pair of Fours)
columbo: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Jacks and Kings)
Uncalled bet (2165) returned to columbo
UTGplus3 collected 6510 from side pot
UTGplus3 collected 24561 from main pot
Dealer finished the tournament in 558th place
Dealer: Stand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31071 | Rake 0
Board [4h 3h Ks 4c 2s]
Seat 1: UTGplus2 mucked
Seat 2: UTGplus3 showed [Kd Ad] and won (31071) with two pair, Jacks and Kings
Seat 3: UTGplus4 mucked
Seat 4: UTGplus5 mucked
Seat 5: Dealer (button) showed [Tc Ac] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 6: Small Blind (small blind) mucked
Seat 7: Big Blind (big blind) mucked
Seat 8: UTG mucked
Seat 9: columbo showed [Jd Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Kings

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August 26, 2015 - 11:41 pm
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If you know V’s have Ax/AK, then I think the only Ax hand that makes you a dog is AQ, right? If the Ax hand folds, there is a ton of dead money in the pot. But how can you be so sure these are the hands V has?

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August 27, 2015 - 2:13 am
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Give them a range and run a simple equity calc. Make your ranges Ax/AK heavy if you have a strong read and give the 3better a raise.folding range if you jam.

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can someone please recap the action for me? got lost in all those raises frownfrownfrown

 

nah that was too sarcastic kiss

 

so you raise utg1 with an about 15% range, you get 3bet from utg3 and BTN cold 4bet shoves.

 

your GII range should exactly be KK+ everything else is burning money

 

funny that all three player involved played the hand terrible 

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Looks like I had about 40% equity.  Ok to get in 26 BB?

 

florianm1:  To be honest, I take exception to your response.  I dont agree with your assumpitions, sarcasm, nor your conclusion.  (not sure why you responded at all?)

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August 28, 2015 - 3:21 am
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bc everyonce in a while i need to troll a bit

the fact that you had 40% vs the two hands shown does not mean your play was good. in 99% of the situations you are crushed here with JJ.

What you apply by saying i had 40% is results oriented thinking and is not gonna lead you anywhere.

hope this helps bit better.

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I usually play $5,10,20 SNGs, so maybe my perspective is wrong, but JJ is never going to be a favorite against a strong 3-bet from mid-position and a cold 4-bet shove for 26 bb, and you'd be lucky to be flipping against A[K,Q]. IMO you're getting off easy when you can fold here having put just 700 into the pot.  One of the good things about having JJ is fold equity, and when you've lost that and still face two players shoveling their pre-flop chips into the pot, your odds are greatly diminished.

 

Would you still have shoved if the two villains' positions were reversed? If dealer had the more threatening stack and shoved, I mean.

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No need to troll , everyone should help eachother here and give the best feedback.:)

 

why is it you had a strong read that you were going to see AK Axx here? If you think v is aggro then 5-bet shoving here is fine as played imo and If he's tight then it probably is a fold. I reckon that buttons 4-bet is going to be strong here as they dont have hardly any FE plus and given the action pre you also still have another opponent left to act as well. 

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