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do we bet flop here?

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September 1, 2019 - 1:35 pm

#Game No : 966815460
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 966815460 *****
250/500 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #142629381 $20 + $2 – Table #13 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Toschi666 ( 33,072 )
Seat 2: london_ace ( 23,690 )
Seat 3: finbarhawkes ( 43,785 )
Seat 4: araikvip ( 39,736 )
Seat 5: Boojeroo ( 60,350 )
Seat 6: H_Peng ( 18,939 )
Seat 7: ANNA_1992 ( 28,146 )
Seat 9: ShugiTheBugi ( 25,267 )
Seat 10: Ildar0365 ( 27,015 )
ShugiTheBugi posts ante [60]
ANNA_1992 posts ante [60]
Toschi666 posts ante [60]
H_Peng posts ante [60]
Boojeroo posts ante [60]
Ildar0365 posts ante [60]
finbarhawkes posts ante [60]
london_ace posts ante [60]
araikvip posts ante [60]
finbarhawkes posts small blind [250]
araikvip posts big blind [500]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ 3s, As ]
Boojeroo folds
H_Peng folds
ANNA_1992 folds
ShugiTheBugi folds
Ildar0365 raises [1,000]
Toschi666 folds
london_ace raises [3,500]
finbarhawkes folds
araikvip folds
Ildar0365 calls [2,500]
** Dealing flop ** [ Ks, Qc, 9d ]
Ildar0365 checks
london_ace bets [4,145]
Ildar0365 calls [4,145]
** Dealing turn ** [ 2c ]
Ildar0365 checks
london_ace checks
** Dealing river ** [ 5d ]
Ildar0365 bets [19,310]
london_ace folds
** Summary **
Ildar0365 did not show his hand
Ildar0365 collected [ 16,580 ]

V was opening up quite a bit from LP , I thought it was a good spot to 3-bet with this hand. I thought c-betting as a bluff was good here as I have a BD which I can barrel turn , though I’m not loving that play either…

what do u guys do here otf?

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September 1, 2019 - 1:51 pm

I tend to bet here, but I think that might be a mistake. That board is so easy to hit, that your fold equity isn’t great. It feels something like you are drawing to a flush draw, with some small FE.

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September 3, 2019 - 1:49 pm

Any board with multiple broadway cards and a third connected card should be bet relatively infrequently. Not to say that we don’t want to bluff ever, but on a flop where I’d strongly consider checking back AA/AK (in a 3bet pot), I’m not bluffing very often at all. This board smashes both players’ ranges which I believe incentivizes us to bet less frequently.

This is likely a board where we bet a very narrow range and want to bet quite large (=> 2/3 pot) when we do. I think the 6 combos of AJs/ATs with BDFDs is more than enough combos for bluffs, and they have the added benefit of blocking more pair combos. You could widen your value range by betting fairly small, but even at <=1/3 pot we likely can’t bluff super-often. Although your hand is a decent bluffing candidate, we’d be betting way too many combos if we did this with all of our BDFD aces no matter how small we bet.

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