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Guys need some kind a of advice. Looking to switch to mid stakes MTTs and play also some low, and sometimes take a shot at high ones. Willing start this grind with roll about 4-5k.
1) Is field really-really strong? or it still have lot’s of fishes, but average player seems to be stronger?
2) Your thoughts about roll? Should have more?
3) What approximately ROI can I expect? I’m doing pretty well in low stakes (Antonz87 on Stars)
4) Is it hard to switch to bigger game? I mean fear or whatever it could be? I’m pretty confident but still have plenty of work to do in order to improve my game.
Any other thoughts from switching to higher gamez! Would really appreciate any suggestions and comments!
TPE Management
March 17, 2010
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Hey there Antonz. My first piece of advice is to leverage the TPE chat function nightly. 
Ok, on a more serious note:
1) Is field really-really strong? or it still have lot’s of fishes, but
average player seems to be stronger?
it’s not REALLY-REALLY strong at all. Most players are not very good, although they are much better than they were 2 years ago. Later on in the tourney you should face more competent opponents in general. I mean your statement is true, there will be lots of fish, but the avg player in a $50 is better than the avg player in a $10, but neither is very strong. A good player can beat them.
2) Your thoughts about roll? Should have more?
I am going to assume that 4k – 5k is your entire roll and you couldn’t redeposit. If that’s the case, I would advise sticking to an ~250ABI rule. TBH, I would even try for more. Right now I’m operating on a 300ABI rule.
I have had many swings of 100ABI or more. Remember, this is an an average. You can definitely take shots at the $50 MTTs but I would stick in the ~$20 ABI range.
3) What approximately ROI can I expect? I’m doing pretty well in low
stakes (Antonz87 on Stars)
I looked up your OPR and your results are absolutely fantastic. 106% is pretty hard to maintain as you move up but ~30% – 50% is definitely doable.
4) Is it hard to switch to bigger game? I mean fear or whatever it
could be? I’m pretty confident but still have plenty of work to do in
order to improve my game.
I wouldn’t worry until you are playing the >$100 tourneys. If you are good, you will beat these lower stakes. Just keep working, reviewing your game, watching videos, posting hands, answering threads. The best way to grow is to be active in the forum. Just answer every strat thread. It makes you think.
But most importantly MANAGE YOUR BR. If you’ve found this site, do the work, and are honest with yourself about your leaks you will improve. But variance can crush you so you have to be very careful about playing too big too quickly. The games are beatable but variance is not. Just manage it.
RonFezBuddy, thanks a lot man! Really liked what u’re saying! definitely I will work on my game, and try to manage my roll as safe as I can! One thing about the chat is time difference, when u have night it’s my morning time. Also i try not to be distracted while playing, so i’m joining chat when i’m surfing Inet or whatever, non playing or playing 1-2 tables.
TPE Management
April 6, 2010
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Couple of follow ups. First, you mentioned the possible “fear factor” of playing higher. If you find yourself not playing your A game because of buyin, then you are probably playing a little too high. As RFB said, take a few shots at $55s here and there, but if you find youself not playing optimally on the bubble because that $55 is too substantial to your bankroll, that is telling you something in my opinion. The $26 tourneys on Full Tilt are a great value, and if you blend those with $11s (Daily Doubles, etc) and some $3r and $5r tourneys, plus the occasional $33 and $55 I think you’ll find plenty of great tournaments to fill your schedule.
Just keep an eye on your ABI to make sure it is in that $20 range.
Also, don’t be afraid to mix in some 180s and 90 mans to flatten variance (not to mention fill empty space on your monitor if you are doing serious multi-tableing).
Finally, if you find yourself on a downswing, dont be afraid to drop the shots. Take the $55s and $33s completely out and mix in more MTT SNGs and small field tourneys to grind that roll back so you can always be comfortable.
Great thread. Very interesting for an aspiring low stakes player. I had been employing a too aggresive brm strategy without even realising it! My ABI was around 150 I will have to drop down a lot. I hadn’t thought abou my br after switching from sng’s. GL with the step up.
RonFezBuddy said:
Hey there Antonz. My first piece of advice is to leverage the TPE chat function nightly.
Ok, on a more serious note:
1) Is field really-really strong? or it still have lot's of fishes, but
average player seems to be stronger?it's not REALLY-REALLY strong at all. Most players are not very good, although they are much better than they were 2 years ago. Later on in the tourney you should face more competent opponents in general. I mean your statement is true, there will be lots of fish, but the avg player in a $50 is better than the avg player in a $10, but neither is very strong. A good player can beat them.
2) Your thoughts about roll? Should have more?
I am going to assume that 4k – 5k is your entire roll and you couldn't redeposit. If that's the case, I would advise sticking to an ~250ABI rule. TBH, I would even try for more. Right now I'm operating on a 300ABI rule.
I have had many swings of 100ABI or more. Remember, this is an an average. You can definitely take shots at the $50 MTTs but I would stick in the ~$20 ABI range.
3) What approximately ROI can I expect? I'm doing pretty well in low
stakes (Antonz87 on Stars)I looked up your OPR and your results are absolutely fantastic. 106% is pretty hard to maintain as you move up but ~30% – 50% is definitely doable.
4) Is it hard to switch to bigger game? I mean fear or whatever it
could be? I'm pretty confident but still have plenty of work to do in
order to improve my game.I wouldn't worry until you are playing the >$100 tourneys. If you are good, you will beat these lower stakes. Just keep working, reviewing your game, watching videos, posting hands, answering threads. The best way to grow is to be active in the forum. Just answer every strat thread. It makes you think.
But most importantly MANAGE YOUR BR. If you've found this site, do the work, and are honest with yourself about your leaks you will improve. But variance can crush you so you have to be very careful about playing too big too quickly. The games are beatable but variance is not. Just manage it.
WORD!
July 3, 2010
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Yeah I think I'd want a roll of like $7500 before dropping all small and micro buy ins from my schedule and deciding to do purely mid-stakes and the smaller rebuys.
And like other said I'd grind $4.40 180's still plus $6 and $12 90 Man KO's on the side.
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