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June 3, 2012
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This hand took place at a live $550 tournament with an excellent structure. 40k starting stack, 45 min levels on day 1. Because of this a lot of play is very deep. Despite my table having the most regs/pros out of any table in the room (I didn't know this at the time), I felt very comfortable with my opponents. I was definitely playng pretty aggro, 3 betting a ton, making moves post-flop and having the best of it at showdown.
Villain 1 to my direct right I would describe as a stationy LAG. He opens a lot, and plays good aggressive poker, but his main weakness is flatting too many raises, never folding to 3bets, playing somewhat fit or fold post (at least in 3bet pots). I've been 3betting this guy a ton as he will open hands like K2s even from UTG and pretty much owning him all day.
Villain 2 to the right of Villain 1 is a younger guy, came to the table recently not sure if re-entry or bought in late. I've seen him open pretty large (4x, 3.6x) and play a little non-standard. He chipped down to 25k quickly and then doubled up (I think he coolered someone). He is the only person who has caught me being out of line. In the orbit before the hand he opens HJ to 1600, CO calls 1600, I 3bet to 4100 from BTN w/7
5, he 4bets me to 10k and I fold.
Blinds are 250/500/50a, this is the last hand before the break (didn't know or care at the time)
So onto the hand: Villain 1 (35k) limps UTG, Hero (64k) raises to 1300 A8 UTG+1, I get flatted by a reg in MP, the BTN, Villain 2 (52k) in the BB, and Villain 1 calls as well.
Flop (7100) T5
4
Villain 2 bets 3300, Villain 1 folds, Hero raises to 7800, MP and BTN fold, Villain 1 raises to 20k, Hero raises to 62k all-in
I think Villain 2 could be pretty oi me as most of the table was, and sometimes have a weaker draw like KQdd or 67dd. He's obviously going to have a lot of 44/55 in his range too. There is definitely something to be said for not taking such a marginal spot semi-early with heaps of chips at a table that I'm doing pretty well at. But there's also something to be said for having 90k or 110k in the early-mid stages of the tournament and being able to pump the gas more. What does the nation think? Did I just tool out here or is this not as bad as I think it is?
January 15, 2013
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I am fine with this at a later stage of the toruney, but I think with 128 bbs, though not off the deep end, I think you're certainly going out a bit far into the ocean…
But hey, if it works out, you have quite a stack, so what do I know?
February 14, 2013
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Yeah this deep and on a 5 way flop it's a bit nasty, raise calling is pretty shitty, raise/f is pretty shitty, I guess I call and go from there. Also if you think that vil 2 might be somewhat good/not retarted, he probably has like a pretty solid leading range. Like if I'm in his shoes I prob lead all sets (maybe not top set) and then like some weird drawy garbage or something sometimes.
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December 6, 2012
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I wouldn't raise flop unless I expected some fold equity vs Villain 2. Like if you think he's ever betting a pair for info/protection or something and will fold to a raise, then fine. Otherwise your equity isn't good even when we're generous about the number of draws he'll stack off with:
Board: Td 5s 4d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.680% 44.68% 00.00% 6635 0.00 { Ad8d }
Hand 1: 55.320% 55.32% 00.00% 8215 0.00 { TT, 55-44, KdQd, KdJd, QdJd, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d3d, 3d2d }
Even if you were 50/50, since you have position, I think it's much better to let the hand play out postflop than to just stick it in on a flip and nullify the value of your position.
June 7, 2012
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Deep end, no, but you are swimming with nothing more than a noodle in choppy seas.
I like the weaker line of calling the initial bet on the flop. This deep, against this table, and your comfort level, play a smaller pot. I am learning that the weaker line can be the better line, especially when you are DRAWING to the nutz, and could just save your tournament life. Besides, do you really think he would call off his tournament life on some of the weaker draws you mentioned? I know it can be tough to slow down and think of the over all picture when you are in the heat of battle, lord knows I struggle with this, but in this case it is the best move imo.
June 3, 2012
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Ok, thanks for the replies so far. One important piece of information I had left out so far is that this is a re-entry tournament with unlimited re-entry in day 1. I don't know if that could change his range a little bit, or even make me try such a ballsy play in the first place.
I'm definitely disgusted with myself for getting so aggro, thinking to myself well worst case I do have the nut flush draw.
May 30, 2012
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Vill #1 (Mike B) would have forced me to do that because he's a wacko, LOL. I agree with what others said. You're too good for that.
*I punted my first 40k in that 500. It happens. REBUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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