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Hey Fellas,
raised the river for value, with a tough fold in mind if reraised. last 30+ players of a 3600 field tourny.
Do we ever can raise call profitably here on the river.
Keep in mind the deep stack both players hold. The remaining field was quite soft.
opinions plz
thx
Poker Stars $2.50+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3500/t7000 Blinds + t700 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
UTG: BB = 23.1, t161764
UTG+1: BB = 59.1, t413564
MP1: BB = 42.1, t294505
MP2: BB = 111.4, t779521
CO: BB = 88.9, t622173
Hero (BTN): BB = 112.9, t790571
SB: BB = 100.3, t702012
BB: BB = 24.9, t174317
Pre Flop: (t16100) Hero is BTN with J
7
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t14000, 3 folds, Hero calls t14000, SB calls t10500, 1 fold
Flop: (t54600) 6 J
5 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t28392, SB calls t28392, UTG+1 folds
Turn: (t111384) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t57919, SB calls t57919
River: (t227222) Q (2 players)
SB bets t182000, Hero raises to t381500, SB calls t199500
October 6, 2010
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first thing i would do in this spot is construct a weighted range of all the types of hands you think villain will call with in this spot, and then see how you do against that range
I'm not sure there is much value in raising the river. V's chunky river bet polarises his range between air and flushes which are often going to be better than yours. So I'm just calling the river bet.
Wow. Is he really check/raising the nuts on this river? He just called the whole way then check/raises a non-threatening river to your hand. I think your play was just fine. I am valuing this river as well. His play is kinda indication of a bad player and I guess he can have a better flush some of the time but I am still calling, same as you did.
Hey hawkeye i think you read the post wrong
Its not a c/r on the river – its a 3/4'ish pot bet lead into us
This guy has taken a weird line with whatever it is he has
He obv doesnt have the nut flush (or he comes back over the top on the river), and it seems a bit big for a blocking bet
So that leaves a bunch of other random flushes (most of which have us beat) and possibly some horribly played 2 pairs maybe. I think the only flush we beat is Th9h?
Goodness knows he might have KQ or something i dunno
Anyway, my first instinct when reading the post was to call and not raise his river bet for some reason
Some history in the form of this villain over-representing weak made hands would be good here and his ability or willingness to bluff also..
hapetimes said:
Hey hawkeye i think you read the post wrong
Its not a c/r on the river – its a 3/4'ish pot bet lead into us
This guy has taken a weird line with whatever it is he has
He obv doesnt have the nut flush (or he comes back over the top on the river), and it seems a bit big for a blocking bet
So that leaves a bunch of other random flushes (most of which have us beat) and possibly some horribly played 2 pairs maybe. I think the only flush we beat is Th9h?
Goodness knows he might have KQ or something i dunno
Anyway, my first instinct when reading the post was to call and not raise his river bet for some reason
Some history in the form of this villain over-representing weak made hands would be good here and his ability or willingness to bluff also..
Your right…man, being sick the last few days has me loopy. 
all good hawkeye
get well mate
if you (and any other TPE member for that matter) lived close to me in NZ i'd be more than happy to come over for a free consult and prescribe appropriate treatment!
Health care in NZ is pretty cheap when compared to the USA i hear
But if you know me and i like you – its free
Reads are always important but readless I cant see any reason to raise river.
If V has Ax hearts he should really be raising flop, but can see some calling for flush (bad play in my opinion unless AhQh, or KhQh) but still possible.
Also there are str flushs out there, that he could be worried about with your strong line.
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