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July 3, 2012
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UTG+1 opens and I flat to induce a shove behind me, didn't expect UTG+1 to 4b jam over the top. Versus a random do you see this as an iso or strength? My initial response is I just have to get it in here especially in a 2 rebuy, but we are final 2 tables here and there is like 1.7k up top compared to $47 you get from busting now.
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 – 7 players – View hand 2207534
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
CO: BB = 17.4, t174207
BTN: BB = 29.3, t292784
SB: BB = 8.6, t86336
BB: BB = 30.3, t303004
UTG: BB = 17.9, t179333
UTG+1: BB = 34.1, t340666
Hero (MP): BB = 24.9, t248606
Pre Flop: (t23750) Hero is MP with Q
Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t20000, Hero calls t20000, 1 fold, BTN raises to t291534 all in, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises to t339416 all in, Hero ?????
August 23, 2012
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I get it in here because I think were are clearly ahead of the BTN's squeeze shoving range and UTG+1 can reshove with a range we dominate as well such as TT+ AQ+. Most players would induce with KK+ in BTN's spot so I think we should only worry about UTG+1. As played I do not think we should fold because UTG+1 may view our flat as a very marginal hand and not worry about us when he resoves. If we had 3b small and then seen the BTN and UTG+1's shove afterward, then I think we could find a fold. It is a 2r/a so all of my reads could be wrong and they could have insanely tight ranges so close to the FT. JJ is a clear fold, but QQ is pretty close here.
June 1, 2012
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This is a snap get it in. I have seen players this spot show up with 99s and AQ before sometimes worse.
May 9, 2013
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to me it looks like a fold,,
the utg made the standard raise hoping for a reraise.. you call adding to the pot and the button squeezes all in.
for me the buttonn isn't necessarily squeezing light at this stage.. tens up, and ace king type hands.
the utg reraises all in as to chase you out of the pot, or probaly induce you to call due to pot odds eh ?.
i bet you are up against monster by utg. (in giving the utg a tight range,, in poker stove you are 33 percent vs a button reraise squeeze of nines or better, ace queen suited, and utg range of ace king off suit,, queens or better, with the utg having 44 percent).
now if the utg had folded to the button squeeze i would get it in, here i think we are looking to suck out or hold up against ace king suited, and a lower pair at best.
edited to add
pm me what they had please.
July 3, 2012
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I'm going to post the results in a few days, but I'll still PM you
February 13, 2013
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Would have it been a better idea to 3bet the UTG+1's raise or is a flat call fine as well?
August 23, 2012
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3b calling is the standard play here. I wouldn't recommend flatting any other hands than KK+ and just fold, 3b/call, or 3b/fold in this situation. Calling with KK+ is often ideal when the initial raiser is very loose and will fold to a 3b often, but stack off wider postflop. If the initial raiser is tight then 3b calling KK+ is usually best because their range is strong enough to want to get it in preflop. Flatting with a wider value range could be good if players behind are likely to view it is as weak and squeeze frequently. If your table if full of regs who will know a flat is KK+ then I would not cold call with them. You could also get creative depending on table dynamics and your image. Only bad thing is when you have a monster in this spot, but have been playing very tight and get no action.
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