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Daily Double A & B
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July 31, 2010 - 8:06 am
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Guys sre these 2 hands a shove?

Those are my final 2 hands in both tourneys, just wonder if these is what is meant to be played?

I always do OK but never make it to the best 100 at least, lately that is ….285/1186 and 163/1062 thats the result btw…I notice RonFezBuddy was playing those yesterday so I registered as well lol, hadnt played those for a while…

Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – A No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t200/t400 Blinds + t50 – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

hellas7 (MP1): BB = 39.7, t15871, M = 15.87
dettigerfan13 (MP2): BB = 16.6, t6640, M = 6.64
SHARPSUITE (CO): BB = 10.4, t4143, M = 4.14
UAreMyBankRoll (BTN): BB = 57.8, t23125, M = 23.12
69bigdog (SB): BB = 23.2, t9277, M = 9.28
Kenny Colhao (BB): BB = 9.3, t3726, M = 3.73
dessy33 (UTG): BB = 35.7, t14295, M = 14.29
toddosu (UTG+1): BB = 40.5, t16195, M = 16.20

Pre Flop: (t1000) Kenny Colhao is BB with 8 of hearts Q of spades
6 folds, 69bigdog calls t200, Kenny Colhao raises to t3676 all in, 69bigdog calls t3276

Flop: (t7752) 3 of spades 9 of spades K of clubs

Turn: (t7752) A of diamonds

River: (t7752) 4 of clubs

Final Pot: t7752
69bigdog shows 9h Ks (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Kenny Colhao shows 8h Qs (Ace King high)
69bigdog wins t7752

 

Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – B No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400/t800 Blinds + t100 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

dpest (UTG+2): BB = 14.9, t11888, M = 5.66
Pro100nick (MP1): BB = 22.3, t17873, M = 8.51
EastCoaster22 (MP2): BB = 9.6, t7684, M = 3.66
Kenny Colhao (CO): BB = 23.8, t19045, M = 9.07
Ainna88 (BTN): BB = 12.3, t9863, M = 4.70
GiveMeMyPOT (SB): BB = 15.9, t12756, M = 6.07
PeoPlesChamPP (BB): BB = 19.4, t15525, M = 7.39
River Not (UTG): BB = 9.3, t7472, M = 3.56
davidschronic (UTG+1): BB = 35.2, t28181, M = 13.42

Pre Flop: (t2100) Kenny Colhao is CO with 8 of spades 8 of diamonds
1 fold, davidschronic raises to t2400, 3 folds, Kenny Colhao raises to t18945 all in, 3 folds, davidschronic calls t16545

Flop: (t39990) T of spades J of hearts 6 of spades

Turn: (t39990) K of spades

River: (t39990) 4 of hearts

Final Pot: t39990
Kenny Colhao shows 8s 8d (a pair of Eights)
davidschronic shows Kd Ah (a pair of Kings)
davidschronic wins t39990

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I think i'd pass on hand 1 for a few reasons.  shoving there seems light and he's got a lot of chips to look you up.  He could be trapping you to shove with his limp.  Plus you get to see a flop for free.  It's not awful but I think you can get some additional equity by looking at the flop and then you have the whole next orbit to shove if it's no good.

 

Hand 2 is 100% standard….just unlucky.

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I agree with RFB on the first hand, its just not a great spot or hand to ship with. Hand 2 is a super easy shove.

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def checking hand 1 in pos and seeing a flop. he might be trapping but more often than not unless u have a super aggro image villain will be playing it straightforward pre and post. if we flop a pair and he checks i'm getting it in.

 

2nd hand seems like a standard shove unless villain had been very tight. if you have any info on villains next time post it in OP so we can get a better feel for the dynamics of the table.

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agree 100% with RFB

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and fwiw these A&b tourneys are the biggest scam in the online community. the rake is ubsurdly high and no one will ever win both. ive seen some double final tables in the past but for the most part there a joke imo

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I'd push both hands with the info you gave me. Unless you have reads he makes those calls with king high I just ship it. He will fold 90% of the time normally.

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ttwist said:

and fwiw these A&b tourneys are the biggest scam in the online community. the rake is ubsurdly high and no one will ever win both. ive seen some double final tables in the past but for the most part there a joke imo


double cash bonus tho.

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My question is, how willing should you be with a M of <10 to gamble to double up with  3bet shove?? Cuz for sure its best u shove when its folded to you then to 3bet shove and maybe get called and be out?

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RonFezBuddy said:

I think i'd pass on hand 1 for a few reasons.  shoving there seems light and he's got a lot of chips to look you up.  He could be trapping you to shove with his limp.  Plus you get to see a flop for free.  It's not awful but I think you can get some additional equity by looking at the flop and then you have the whole next orbit to shove if it's no good.

 

Hand 2 is 100% standard….just unlucky.


imo, i think both plays are correct. he limps in not showing strength which could very well be a trap but we dont know this. if beat here we pack up and walk away. if the positions were reversed its a standard shove. with his limp hes looking to see a cheap flop and i dont think we give it to him. we only have 9bbs.  unfortunate both hands.

 

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