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March 8, 2014
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Hi All – Recently joined TPE first post. Looking to get some feed back on a few hands that happend during the CPC.
Hand 1 Event #9 – $250 NLH
We have 120k (40BB) before the hand. Level 12 blinds at 1500/3000 400 ante.
Villan has 100K and opens UTG+2 to 6.7k. He has been the table captain playing around 45% of his hands. The table folds around to us and we 3-bet to 17.5k with 9
9
from the cutoff. The blinds fold and the villan calls.
The flop is 7
56. The vilian checks and we c-bet 18k. After a few seconds the villain moves all in.
The villians range is pretty wide. I'm thinking he is playing all his big draws this way or he could of floped top two.
Interested to hear other players thoughts on this hand. Do you 3-bet pre flop? Do you risk your stack here or fold and wait for a better spot?
Hand 2 – Event #1 – $360 NLH
We have 135k (16BB) before the hand. Level 17 4000/8000 1000 ante.
UTG+2 has 200K and opens for 18k. Older gentalmen has 140K smooth calls from middle postion and the table folds around to us. We have AQ in the big blind, recently moved to the table and had no reads.
Is this the perfect spot to squeeze and rip it all in?
Let me know what you think. Thanks
January 20, 2014
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Hey Mike! Welcome to TPE! We just talked about your hand #2 on the podcast with Joe LaPinta. It will be out March 30th.
As far as hand #1, yes I would 3bet with 99 to try and get heads up, and I like your sizing: just under a 3x of his raise. He calls your 3bet, and if my math is right at a 9 handed table there should be 43,100 in the pot going to the flop. He checks, you cbet, and he shoves. You are getting 2.22 to 1 (143,000 pot and 64,500 to call).
Is his range is really as wide as 76 for top two? That seems extremely wide to raise in EP and then call a 3bet with 33bb. Have you seen him do this before with other crazy hands?
I put in a range for him on slice. Remember he raised, called your 3bet, then check shoved giving you over 2 to 1 on a call. Here's the range I gave him:
44-AA, AcKc-Ac2c, KcQc-KcTc, QcJc, QcTc, JcTc, Tc9c, 98s, 87s, 76s. You are 55% against that range. I would call.
~Steve
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December 6, 2012
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I'm not wild about the 3b in hand one because your hand plays reasonably well as a call and really hates getting 4bet. As played, flop seems like a pretty easy call. I mean, think about how often you'd be folding if you don't call with this. You've got lots of AK and AQ that fold, and I'd rather call with this than TT and maybe even JJ, so what does that leave, just QQ+, Ac Kc, and Ac Qc?
As a general rule, if the only justification you can find for a fold is waiting for a better spot, you should probably just call. The whole “better spot” thing gets taken way too far and is usually just a justification for weak-tight play in my opinion.
Hand 2 would be pretty close if we knew that these were tight players, but even then it might be a shove, and since you can't be sure about that, I'd just ship it. If you were a bit deeper, I could see calling.
March 8, 2014
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Thanks for the feedback. Steve, I think you're right, including 76 in his range is a bit wide when he opens and calls my 3bet.
Foucault – I now see that calling would've been the better play. There is no reason for me to build a big pot in this spot. I'm trying to work on my 3bet range. I have been expirementing 3 betting in position with smaller pairs, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ, J10…What kind of hands are you 3 betting?
January 20, 2014
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Andrew, why would you rather call with 99 than TT or even JJ?
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December 6, 2012
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SIGABA said:
Andrew, why would you rather call with 99 than TT or even JJ?
Put Villain on some ranges and run them in Slice.
January 20, 2014
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Ok here's a range I constructed for Villain:
55-77, QQ-AA, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc
Here's how this range performs vs:
99 – 25.8%
TT – 14.7%
JJ – 13.9%
I kept the suits consistent to . That surprises me that the nines do the best … What just happened? Ahhhhhhh. I think I got it. When you have 99 you have three or four 8s that are outs to give you a straight. When you have JJ or TT you do not.
Am I warm here or did I just walk into the freezer? Thank you!
November 18, 2013
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Hand 2 – Yes it is a perfect spot to squeeze with a lot of hands. It's also a good spot to call with a ton of hands since you are getting 5.8 : 1. I'm curious what the forum members think about which hands to put in each of these ranges.
For me, I'm almost always shipping here. Your hand is so strong that you are going to be ahead on a lot of flops even when you miss, but you will be in a guessing game OOP with 2:1 SPR. Usually an older man calling in position means he has a hand he wants to see the flop with but doesn't want to risk his stack with rather than a trap to induce a light 3-bet. Even though I don't expect the old man to call, EP raiser has to be concerned about the call, so he's only going to commit with the top of his range. Yes, you don't love it when you're called by AK or QQ+, but there's not that many combos of those and you still have OK equity against all but aces.
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December 6, 2012
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SIGABA said:
Ok here's a range I constructed for Villain:
55-77, QQ-AA, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc
Here's how this range performs vs:
99 – 25.8%
TT – 14.7%
JJ – 13.9%
I kept the suits consistent to
Am I warm here or did I just walk into the freezer? Thank you!
You got it. And there's very little difference between 99 and TT (as you can see from TT and JJ having basically the same equity) otherwise. Also 99 blocks 98.
February 2, 2015
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TheClubber said:
Hand 2 – Yes it is a perfect spot to squeeze with a lot of hands. It's also a good spot to call with a ton of hands since you are getting 5.8 : 1. I'm curious what the forum members think about which hands to put in each of these ranges.
I'm curious to see some peoples' ranges here also. Currently I would be squeezing with ATs, AJo+,and 88+ (should I include some top suited connectors such as JTs, QJs, KQs for a bit of balance?) and I would be with hands like 22-77, A2s-A9s, ATo, and almost any suited connector.
January 20, 2014
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Thank you Andrew. I never thought of how it was a blocker to 98, but that makes sense. You have a good way of teaching. By me constructing the range and running the numbers, I was able to come up with the answer and learn by doing. I think in some cases if you just tell the person the answer, it is less likely to stick. I will remember this forever now.
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