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I realize by limping here I was asking for what I got. I had KK twice this game, 2.5x opened and got no action. Wanted some action but not this much… Knowing the BB could have anything here, am I really supposed to be looking at laying this down to a set or 2 pair?? He was 38-19 over 16 hands. I thought his leading out was bs and I just flatted it through and thought he didnt want to give up the lead. But the bets were not small so I thinking over pair and was still good. I definitely didn't see 26o…Is this a spot to get away from after the turn bet??
Poker Stars $3.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
stratpicker (SB): BB = 12.4, t24720
dcldcl (BB): BB = 54.7, t109385
lemsip777 (UTG): BB = 52.7, t105379
vor1p (UTG+1): BB = 10.1, t20277
TaRealMakuri (UTG+2): BB = 32.1, t64254
stryker1313 (MP1): BB = 22.9, t45764
jeejee6470 (MP2): BB = 27.1, t54260
cashonly1111 (CO): BB = 35.7, t71306
skimides (BTN): BB = 39.7, t79423
Pre Flop: (t4800) cashonly1111 is CO with K
K
5 folds, cashonly1111 calls t2000, 2 folds, dcldcl checks
Flop: (t6800) 4
6
2 (2 players)
dcldcl bets t6000, cashonly1111 calls t6000
Turn: (t18800) T (2 players)
dcldcl bets t16000, cashonly1111 calls t16000
River: (t50800) 2 (2 players)
dcldcl bets t20000, cashonly1111 calls t20000
June 25, 2010
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no, i dont think you can fold because of how much you underrepresented your hand. But you should really be raising pre here, because right now it's almost impossible to assign the BB a range. He can have 53, 42, 62, 52, A2. The board at the river is pretty good for you because you beat 64, and weird hands like T6 and T4. All of these he can possibly have because of the limp pre. Your actions preflop can make your decisions post flop a lot easier.
Or you could reraise the the flop and see where you stand
Also, don't discount a myriad of missed draws on that board. His holdings could have been any 5x, two spades, etc.
Like jshilling said, the river improves your chances of winning, potentially counterfeiting his two pair. Also, with his river bet, he's laying you almost exactly 4:1 on your money. It's a tough call to stomach, but probably the right one for the situation.
I think this is a bad position to limp KK or AA. With big pair you are either trying to win a small pot preflop or isolate one other player post flop, a limp here makes it hard to achieve either of these goals. Once you limp in this position you give the button and blinds a chance to also limp knowing there will be less hands to act that can raise them out. Also with fewer hands to act it is less likely someone will have a hand to raise with, thus you do not get the opportunity to 3-bet them out or iso them if they flat your 3-bet.
As played I would have raised his flop bet and try to end it right there. Do you have AF on your HUD and what was it for the villain?
yeah, i mean, after your PF limp you're pretty much handcuffed to play it this way. I think you could argue that that clicking back his flop bet to see where you stand may give you the chance to get away but still a pretty sick spot imo. I think the only time i'm limping CO w/ KK is if i can almost gaurantee that someone left to act is gonna try to “punish the limper” but even then the CO is a great spot to get KK cause so many ppl are raising light in LP that you'll probly get the action you desire after raising.Just my 2cents.
preflop its beyond terrible imo- you want action how are you gonna get this in a limped pot. you going for the old limp reraise fish line?
in fact if ur playing well and raising lots of pots someone is more lilely to 3 bet you from the btn and blinds
flop is terrible – raise he bet pot he has something his prob not folding that much
turn is terrible – raise again
river is terrible – cos now u kinda have to call but have no idea where you stand in the hand or of his range as at no point did you show agression in the hand. also villain is on the blinds he can literally have anything because you limped……
billbam said:
I think this is a bad position to limp KK or AA. With big pair you are either trying to win a small pot preflop or isolate one other player post flop, a limp here makes it hard to achieve either of these goals. Once you limp in this position you give the button and blinds a chance to also limp knowing there will be less hands to act that can raise them out. Also with fewer hands to act it is less likely someone will have a hand to raise with, thus you do not get the opportunity to 3-bet them out or iso them if they flat your 3-bet.
As played I would have raised his flop bet and try to end it right there. Do you have AF on your HUD and what was it for the villain?
His Aggression Frequency was infinite..
I see the consensus is the limp really setup a poor way to play the hand right to the end. I guess I was trying to analyze a spot I never should have been in. Never have been a big limper, but now I see why.
Appreciate all the comments guys!!
buffyslayer1 said:
preflop its beyond terrible imo- you want action how are you gonna get this in a limped pot. you going for the old limp reraise fish line?
in fact if ur playing well and raising lots of pots someone is more lilely to 3 bet you from the btn and blinds
flop is terrible – raise he bet pot he has something his prob not folding that much
turn is terrible – raise again
river is terrible – cos now u kinda have to call but have no idea where you stand in the hand or of his range as at no point did you show agression in the hand. also villain is on the blinds he can literally have anything because you limped……
Not well played for sure. Appreciate the honesty
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