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Can we possibly fold to a Loose Passive on river chk/ raise here?
wager9
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25/ 50 NL Early Levels

V1 Arab guy: Splashy.
V2: Arab guy (his friend) – very Loose Passive. Limps almost every hand including the top of his range. Plays the same post flop as well. Will check everything including nuts on every street if OOP. Calls fairly wide as well but not a total calling station

I open in Co with KJ with 5000 behind to 150. V1 calls with 2500 behind. V2 calls with 1500 behind.

Pot = 450
Flop: JQ3

Checks to me. I check.

POT = 450
Turn: 6

Checks to me. I bet 250. V2 calls.

POT= 95
River: K

V2 checks. I bet 55. He shoves for about 70 more…Can we possibly fold this?

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Why don’t you start by putting him on a range and then see what your equity looks like against that range?

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Foucault said
Why don’t you start by putting him on a range and then see what your equity looks like against that range?  

Yeah. His range IMO was pretty nutty:

KK-JJ,66,33,ATs,KJs+,QJs,T9s,ATo,KJo+,QJo,T9o

I am about 14% vs it…not getting the price. Should have folded vs this V.

Do you think the plays on other streets were OK? I feel like I could have maybe C-bet on this flop but I decided against it as I was multi-way and was probably right in the middle of being ahead or behind of what they would call with. 

The turn seemed to enhance my chances at this point of begin ahead of their calling range here so I bet.

And river bet was similar logic – up until he gave me bad news, of course.

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I check flop behind too, you have some showdonw value, no need to bet I guess, worst hands wont fold for one bet. And when is checked to you ott i bet, they probably dont have better, but you have to make that pot bigger.

You can beat worst two pairs, K3 K6 QJ, depends if you think this V will play hands like this, or if he is capable of bluffing you, some V do that thinking you were on a flush draw, and missed, and not are trying to buy the pot otr.

For the range you gave V, this is a fold, only wins from QJ, split with KJ and lose very often.

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