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Can somebody give me a quick lesson on restealing?
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November 9, 2010 - 4:49 pm
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I'm a total tourney noob so bear with me. I play shallow cash games so I have an idea about restealing in terms of identifying late position raisers who are raising too light and 3betting them/shoving on them because they raise to much and fold too often so it's profitable. Can somebody expand this to MTTs? What goes through your mind when you decide whether or not to resteal? At what stack depths do you 3bet smallish or 2.5x or 3x or whatever, and when do you just shove? I watched a Matt Matros video on CR from back in the day when he was at Stox but in this video people still opened late in tourneys to 3x commonly, and I know people like to min open/2.5x open these days, which makes restealing a bit less profitable I would assume. 

Can you make me a better restealer in a two-three sentence response? 🙂

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November 9, 2010 - 5:41 pm
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if you have 20bb or less, then you are in perfect resteal territory. 20bb is probably the tipping point.

 

look for spots where you think you still have fold equity. typically this is from late position raisers, or maybe you can squeeze when an aggro from mp raises and gets flatted somewhere else. 

 

hands like TJ suited, are good resteal hands (better than A9 say) because even if you do get called, you usually have live cards

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yeah benny makes a lot of good points.  I am a little wider, probably 15-25BBs I am shoving my range as long as there are antes.  I am a big fan of jamming hands like TJs 67s etc.., just because you have to think about how you are doing against his calling range.  I don't mind doing to early position people as much, because they will fold more often, as your bet looks a lot stronger.  Doing it twice in a row is usually profitable as well IMO, cause you get more respect the second time aroud.  Watch the bigdog's vid on it, it's like the movie based on the bible of 3-bet jamming.

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yeah 20bb is a rough guide, but i would do it up to 30bb if i think it will get through a big percentage of the time. 

 

too often i do it with suited ace rag or something, but this is a mistake, because against their calling range, which is big aces and pp, you are pretty much crushed. so a hand like JTs is better because if they call with AQ or 88 you are in pretty decent shape

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…..et-shoves/

 

…..y-5-30bbs/

 

2 lines  wink

 

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Tartan_Piper said:

…..et-shoves/

 

…..y-5-30bbs/

 

2 lines  wink

 


 

Nice.

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Re-Stealing is much the same in MTTs as it is in cash. It is a bit of an art form and a little more complex in MTTs as you are less likely to have a very detailed read on the player, so there is more risk involved. That being said I think most everyone covered it already, but my key is usually based a lot around Fear Equity. What I am looking for is the guy to pull this against who is going to have to sit and give serious though to making a call that is effectively for his tournament life (i.e. I will do enough damage to him if he is wrong to drop him to the <15-20bb range and put him into a deperation mode). I think those are the situations where you can exploit them exsessively as once they are afraid of you, chances are they aren't going to stop without a monster.

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