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Call this tight player's small stack AI after my early position click raise open with 66?
derSchwartz
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June 3, 2014 - 1:27 pm
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Good morning,

This is a relatively simple situation that I just want to make sure I have a handle on.  I know that often we are supposed to fold low to mid pairs in early position, especially at full tables, if table dynamics make it too awkward – ie. we're too big to shove but too small compared to the players behind to risk facing a raise.

Well, in this hand, I'm not quite sure if this is exactly that type of situation, where folding 66 from early position would be the most prudent.  Also, considering that the villain is tight, playing VPIP 17% after 800 hands, 13% PFR, 1% open limp, 6% 3-bet, was it also a mistake to call his all in?

Merge Network $500 Gtd – [Turbo, Deep] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t300.00/t600.00 Blinds + t60.00 – 9 players – View hand 2516799
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG+2): BB = 23.2, t13891
bump72 (MP1): BB = 14.7, t8825
Aussteiger13rockets (MP2): BB = 15.0, t9016
george129 (CO): BB = 8.2, t4940
wtchout15 (BTN): BB = 8.3, t5000
Drencrom (SB): BB = 12.8, t7650
awlinbrutus (BB): BB = 27.9, t16724
mathieupoker (UTG): BB = 14.4, t8613
imcrazy26 (UTG+1): BB = 11.6, t6980

Pre Flop: (t1440) Hero is UTG+2 with 6 of diamonds 6 of spades
2 folds, Hero raises to t1200.00, 2 folds, george129 raises to t4880 all in, 3 folds, Hero calls t3680.

I was facing a call of 3,680 into a pot of roughly 7,500.  My plan with the initial raise was to either take the pot down, see a flop, or fold to a large raise over me.   I would have folded if any of the stacks above 10BB had shoved.  I would have called wtchout15 easily as he was loose/aggressive with a small stack.  It was only in response to this small all in from the tight player that I was uncertain.  Since he probably knew he had little fold equity, I would say his range seemed like 44+, A4s+, A7o+, KTs+ KJo+, QJs

Any criticism on my thinking or my actions?

Have an excellent Tuesday morning.

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June 3, 2014 - 11:02 pm
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For 8bb this is an easy call imo. If you arent going to be calling this stack behind you shouldnt be opening this. Its important to note that you have to also call wtchout15. If he had >10bb it may still be a call depending on your read/stats on the villain.

You are getting better than 2:1 here. Given you have assigned a range to this villain use a program like Slice, Pokerstove or similar and input his range into one field, your hand 66 in the other and run the equity computation. If you have better than 2:1 which is 33% i believe, then you have to call.

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It's a simple equity calculation. You're getting better than 2:1, meaning you only need around 30-32% equity vs his range to make the call. Estimate his range, plug it into an equity calculator, and if you have more than 32% equity, this is a call.

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