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Call river with TPGK?
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February 1, 2015 - 8:19 am
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PokerStars Hand #129714579376: Tournament #1118958291, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2015/02/01 13:07:44 CUST [2015/02/01 8:07:44 ET]
Table '1118958291 149' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ThaLoverboy (2355 in chips) 
Seat 2: songzai (3120 in chips) 
Seat 3: london_acee (7370 in chips) 
Seat 4: Popiedejopie (4200 in chips) 
Seat 5: TED456-27 (2345 in chips) 
Seat 6: Mariaci201 (2880 in chips) 
Seat 7: mexal89 (2465 in chips) 
Seat 8: Guihierba (1970 in chips) 
Seat 9: legarskbb (11285 in chips) 
ThaLoverboy: posts small blind 40
songzai: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to london_acee [Aheart Qspade]
london_acee: raises 80 to 160
Popiedejopie: folds 
TED456-27: folds 
Mariaci201: folds 
mexal89: folds 
Guihierba: folds 
legarskbb: folds 
ThaLoverboy: folds 
songzai: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [7heart 6spade Aclub]
songzai: bets 320
london_acee: calls 320
*** TURN ***  [Jspade]
songzai: bets 500
london_acee: calls 500
*** RIVER *** [4club]
songzai: bets 2140 and is all-in
london_acee:????
 
 
hey
 
no reads on v
 
Ive been active , playing tons of hands.
 
 

looking back at this hand , there line does look super strong , and im not sure if v is going to lead with hands lke 66/77/A7/A6 and stuff like that , the river completes the GT as well which is 58s, doubt he would play that hand like this though, given that this board hits my range more then villians.

 

call or fold river?

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You listed hands you could lose to if you call. What are the hands you could beat if you call?

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I can beat a good few Ax but would he really lead out with A2/A3/AT ,doubt it , i think i'm only ahead here if v is bluffing pretty much, their value range has me crushed, i now think this is a easy fold lol.

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My thoughts as well. This is an error I see a lot, where people decide they should call (which maybe you didn't here, I dunno) just because hands that beat them are unlikely. The other half of the analysis is considering how likely are the hands you beat. Sometimes, even when the better hands seem improbable, the worse hands make even less sense.

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Well pointed out foucault.

 

Folding TPGK ain't easy , many players struggle to fold it , if you let go off top pair to often you do do become exploitable and a good target to bluff. I do agree though people just tend to call because hands that beat them are unlikely,why rule it out that v can't have very strong hands here?

 

I must say though that I did think that it was unlikely for v to have strong hands here but that don't mean i'm calling his river shove,  he's bet 3 streets on a Axx flop which hits my pre flop range hero could easily have AK/AQ/AJ/AA ,  his line just does not look consistant to a bluff.cool

 

Unless we had reads that v plays terrible then yeah that's a different ball game.

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