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June 24, 2014
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Merge – $10+$1|<$500 Gtd [Deep]> NL – Holdem – 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BLINDS 400/800/80
BTN: 16.44 BB (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
SB: 33.1 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 1.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)
Hero (BB): 21.49 BB
UTG: 9.62 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
UTG+1: 15.25 BB (VPIP: 17.02, PFR: 9.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
MP: 6.36 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
CO: 57.07 BB (VPIP: 17.93, PFR: 11.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 146)
7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has Q
K
fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, HERO?
July 7, 2014
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This is highly dependent on the guy's steal number not necessarily vpip/pfr. If his steal is above 40 or you have a good in-game read that he has been stealing a lot in late position I'd be reshipping every time. If not, then I'd just flat; you are given way too good of a price to ever be folding a hand as strong as KQ.
May 20, 2013
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There are so many aces in his range, I don’t want to 3bet OOP. I would rather call and see flop and evaluate.
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August 25, 2012
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ltcolumbo said:
There are so many aces in his range, I don't want to 3bet OOP. I would rather call and see flop and evaluate.
This doesn't mean anything. What does him having lots of Ax hands mean for our 3betting range? We should be thinking about all his hands, not just Ax hands.
Personally, I would have a very hard time not reshoving here. I think with 24-25bb I would just flat, and with 23 or less I would just reshove since it's so profitable. I wouldn't ever 3bet though, since 3bet/calling is most likely too thin, and we don't want to 3bet/fold a hand this strong when we could profitably shove it as an alternative.
May 20, 2013
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on the 3bet comment, I see your point. I tend to get a bit chincy with the 3bets when I am down to 20 BB.
BUT
I had not considered SHOVING here. I really see your point here and I now think that is the way to go.
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August 25, 2012
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ltcolumbo said:
on the 3bet comment, I see your point. I tend to get a bit chincy with the 3bets when I am down to 20 BB.
BUT
I had not considered SHOVING here. I really see your point here and I now think that is the way to go.
I'm glad you agree. I think it's the right play. With a few more chips we'd have more room, but it's tough on 21bb or thereabouts.
November 4, 2013
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Just to confirm, as this is a topic covered in my most recent coaching session – you are saying with less than about 22BB we should be reshoving this hand? I'm quite often waiting until I'm lower, around the 15BB range to just open reshove KQ.
The major point we discussed in my coaching was that we shouldn't often be 3b KQo or KQs from a blind vs a late position open. All that does is folds out weaker hands and gets us in a bloated pot OOP vs better ones. Ideally, if you know the guy has a very high steal %, that's going to include a lot of Kx and Qx hands, which we dominate. We want to take flops with those kinds of hands, not reshove and have them fold. I guess part of that is being comfortable with your post flop game, especially when OOP. (one of the biggest proponents of this strategy was that we never ever fold any flops).
February 20, 2013
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OneTime1Time said:
Just to confirm, as this is a topic covered in my most recent coaching session – you are saying with less than about 22BB we should be reshoving this hand? I'm quite often waiting until I'm lower, around the 15BB range to just open reshove KQ.
The major point we discussed in my coaching was that we shouldn't often be 3b KQo or KQs from a blind vs a late position open. All that does is folds out weaker hands and gets us in a bloated pot OOP vs better ones. Ideally, if you know the guy has a very high steal %, that's going to include a lot of Kx and Qx hands, which we dominate. We want to take flops with those kinds of hands, not reshove and have them fold. I guess part of that is being comfortable with your post flop game, especially when OOP. (one of the biggest proponents of this strategy was that we never ever fold any flops).
Too shallow for this strat. By shipping we are taking away the OR's initiative and positional advantage. We have a nice hand with nice blockers and we steal the pot from so many hands that are slightly ahead (small-med pairs, decent aces) or slightly behind (broadways and SCs) our holding.
Agree that steal or RFI by position stats make this a much easier decision. Against someone who never steals light I could see flatting being all right, but that requires a special HUD read we don't have here.
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