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BvB flat or raise this Check raise
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January 12, 2011 - 12:38 am
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Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t200/t400 Blinds + t50 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

gr18901 (CO): BB = 11.1, t4424
chel's mom (BTN): BB = 21.5, t8597
29thstreet (SB): BB = 64.1, t25631
Hero (BB): BB = 53.9, t21567
ayounes54 (UTG): BB = 55.7, t22293
pokervee (UTG+1): BB = 43.5, t17416
JKAT17 (UTG+2): BB = 33.5, t13399
TheMakaron (MP1): BB = 10.0, t3982
ABELVERO (MP2): BB = 9.8, t3925

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is BB with 9 of clubs 9 of hearts
7 folds, 29thstreet calls t200, Hero raises to t1200, 29thstreet calls t800

Flop: (t2850) 9 of spades 4 of diamonds A of spades (2 players)
29thstreet checks, Hero bets t1445, 29thstreet raises to t2890

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January 12, 2011 - 1:27 am
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Call flop, reraise turn, shove river = ez game. Long story short his min raise looks like a feeler bet to be honest so he might just shut down after you call but give him the chance to put in another bet.

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January 12, 2011 - 2:08 am
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preflop is too big, something like 500-700 is plenty enough. 

 

on the flop, i like your bet sizing, i would probably flat this and get it in on on a non spade turn

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January 12, 2011 - 5:27 am
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Pre is fine/good. Flop depends on the player, you have any history? How has he been playing etc. Either flatting or 3b'ing are both fine here depending on the opponent. If I 3b I make it like 5900 to make it look like he can make me fold if he jams.

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// Ignore this section…very poor literacy skills on my part

Question on the Pre-Flop 3bet:

 

1. Do you know if he is a calling station?

 

The reason I ask is, if he is then I am fine pumping it up in an effort to extract value. If he isn't or you aren't sure, you have just betrayed your hand strength in my opinion. So often in these stakes that 3bet size is a mid pocket pair, AQ, AJ type hand trying to protect itself by scaring everyone off and you are going to get put into tough spots because of it. I think his check/raise on the flop is exactly that. If I were the villain and the ace hits I am going to check and let you c-bet then I will check raise you virtually 100% of the time putting you to a difficult decision (this case is easy you are going to continue, but you are going to lose value because of it I think). In this case I don't think there is much you are going to do to get value from future streets because if he is any good and you do something against the check/raise your hand is basically face up and he should be going into shutdown mode. Be careful with your bet sizing, unless you have some very specific information.

// End Gman's stupidity.

 

— I totally miss read, thx Hagbard. God, I don't know what the hell happened there. Been reading “Let there be Range” and have 3betting on the brain. For BvB, its fine. Take him for all he'll give.

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hero doesn't 3bet anywhere in this hand. the SB limps and he raises 3x, which is totally fine. at their stack depth going to 4x would be totally fine. and BvB if you're not raising a SB limp with 99 then you are losing value.

 

as to the flop, i'd agree that the only mistake you can make here is to fold or raise too big. either flatting or putting in a small raise are both fine and what i do is going to depend mostly on history/gameflow/reads.

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