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Button 3x open raise. IN SB with 55 awkward stacks
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January 13, 2011 - 10:02 am
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Poker Stars $4.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 8 players

TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

afendi24 (UTG): t3346 16.73 BBs

11284 (UTG+1): t1120 5.60 BBs

FERGUICA (MP1): t16923 84.61 BBs

Justin Credi (MP2): t3767 18.84 BBs

nesikikava (CO): t11910 59.55 BBs

Nixon A.R (BTN): t6700 33.50 BBs

Hero (SB): t6889 34.45 BBs

JackBluff666 (BB): t5074 25.37 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is SB with 5 of hearts 5 of clubs

5 folds, Nixon A.R raises to t600, Hero

villain has stats of 22/11 over 30 hands. 0 steals of 2 opportunities.

Is this a straight fold without antes in the pot ?

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Yeah I'd fold.  In this theory video, Panda walks through playing small pairs and he uses a rule of thumb of 20-1 for pot odds for playing a small pair like this OOP without antes.  Looks like you have to put in 500 and effective stacks are 6700.  You won't hit a set + stack him enough to make this profitable.  

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I think in general you are deep enough that I would 3bet him as a resteal. It is a BTN raise and I would expect the BB to fold a huge percentage of the time without a real hand here at these stakes as well as the BTN just giving up a lot here as well. But if you don't feel like being that aggressive or getting that crazy I can see a fold as being a very good alternative as well.

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If he folded his last two steal opportunities, I'd probably fold especially without the antes its just 100 chips. With a 3bet you have to ask yourself are you really willing to go to bat with 5's vs a 4bet shove? Best case you're flipping and worst your crushed. I see it as an unnecessary risk that early.

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No way I would play this past the 3bet, but 0/2 isn’t a very reliable read on his play either. Could be an interesting spot to learn something about how he plays pretty cheaply. But like I said, folding is okay too.

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RonFezBuddy said:

Yeah I'd fold.  In this theory video, Panda walks through playing small pairs and he uses a rule of thumb of 20-1 for pot odds for playing a small pair like this OOP without antes.  Looks like you have to put in 500 and effective stacks are 6700.  You won't hit a set + stack him enough to make this profitable.  


so based on Panda's 18 or 20 – 1 rule, for him to call and profitably set mine hero needs to have around 12k in his stack because 600 x 20 = 12000? The 20-1 rule applys to the original raiser right? Is it 20-1 on his stack or 20-1 on his bet size? Ugh I need to watch his video again lol.

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