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Hi TPE, i have a question for you.
I just busted out from a mtt on the bubble and have some doubts about my play, so let's look at it.
Everyone folds to me in the sb, i have 22bb left and the big blind has me covered. I chose to shove the A3off and he snaps with AT, but the result is not the point of this post.
I was just wondering if this is a +ev spot, i basically take it everytime i can and i think it is, especially on the bubble and with those stacks. But i often bust out this way and it's not funny 🙂
What do u think?
Thanks in advance,
phil
Sorry guys the hand was actually A2off, not A3… doesn't make any difference btw…
With a 22bb stack i would probably be raise/folding to a jam. Its a bit too much to be open jamming, your risk/reward raito is pretty poor since the BB has you covered. If they both had around 10BB then i would consider jamming
Other things to consider would be your image and the tendencies of the villains left to act. If they're really loose and 3betting a lot or restealing a lot i might just pitch the hand.
^^agree, raise 3x and if villain shoves, fold. 22bb is too much too openshove here. Openshove 12bb or less i think. Otherwise raise/fold. If called proceed cautious on a flop that would hit villain's range like flops with a K, Q, J, 10, 9 for example. Flops like 754 or 6610 are more suitable to cbet, but w 19bb left after ur raise u can still cbet 3-4bb many flops and get through or bet flop and then check/fold turn if villain calls.
ty guys!
i'll probably be more careful with stack sizes in these spots… the reasons i shove there are:
– i figure my Ace high is good and have a lot of fold equity
– i don't want to be flatted and play a poor hand out of position, plus
– i'm usually fine with just openshoving ~20bb as a maximum in this kind of spot.
But whatever, probably 3xing is better especially on the bubble and with a decent reshove stack behind (like 20bb)… i will be more careful in the future…
Thanks again guys and gl!
phil
June 22, 2010
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Your stack size is not critical for a shove. I really can't see being spewy with a shove blind vs. blind unless the blinds were really high with antes. You could try a steal attempt with a 3x and fold to any reraise. I don't like the hand for blind vs. blind shove. More times than not you will take it down with 3x raise and not risk your stack to do it.
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rawphil said:
ty guys!
i'll probably be more careful with stack sizes in these spots… the reasons i shove there are:
– i figure my Ace high is good and have a lot of fold equity
You are correct, but with this shove size, the only hands you fold out are the one you beat.
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