April 14, 2013
Hello TPE,
Just played a $70+$10 tourney(sit and go as it was only 27 players) at my local poker room.
The play at this time was either an open shove from a player and fold round or blind vs blind small pots in the 3 orbits of 5 handed. Except me when i 2-3x bet(about once an orbit) no1 would play with me as i just knocked out 6th and 7th place out with K3o and Q7s.
Now the hand.
Blinds 600/1200 100ante
Small blind stack 21k 5th in chips
big blind stack 64k 2nd in chips
ME 52k 3rd in chips
Folded me in cutoff I limp with K4 wanting to play a flop and it was the 1st limp of 5handed play.
Small calls
Big calls
Pot $4100
Flop J87
Small bets $1500
Big folds
I just call dont want to lose my customer
Pot $7100
Turn 4 Board J874
check check
i figure this was the best way to get value as he seemed uncomfortable with my call on the folp
Pot $7100
River 7 Board j8747
Small leads out for $5100
This is were im not sure what to do as 2 pair i figured was in his range on the flop or maybe A7 and maybe a smaller flush or T9 would bet here to. Small has got less than 10k behind with 12,200 in the pot maybe a shove is better.
Feed back pls
Thank you for reading came 2nd in this tourney but this was hand i thought about on the drive home
oldwaldo
Based on villian, I bet he has a 7 and thinks he is good. Yes, Ad7d is the Monster in the closet (as is the flopped set). But trips is calling you here (based on his bet) and so is a lesser flush.. And what is he checking the turn with then leading with on the river?
I think your decision is Call or shove, not folding, right?
I often make the mistake of CALLING here and seeing AdJs or similar marginal hand. Unless you think this villian is a good player, I suspect I shove river. (But I dont play the other streets this way, so hard to say.)
June 24, 2014
If I want to play this hand then I would open pre for a min raise – not limp.
After his bet otf it's hard to imagine that after putting money into the pot with his short stack that he would want to fold so I might make a small bet looking like you are trying to steal – with the intention of calling if he shoves. As played I am not folding anywhere in this hand so I would call otr.
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
I don't mean to be brutal, but this hand is honestly kind of a botch from start to finish, I'm afraid.
Firstly, there's no reason to limp preflop with anything here, let alone a weak hand like K4s.
On the flop, you're right, you don't want to lose your customer, but you really, really don't want to lose value, which is why you should be raising a K high flush on that flop every single time, especially when he bets small. The longer you wait to raise, the stronger it's going to look, so your best chance at value is to raise on the flop.
The turn check is really quite bad too, the board is getting even more drawy so you are more and more likely to lose value the further you get into the hand. You need to play it fast on a drawy board like this, to get value out of the wider range of hands that calls you, and to prevent the weaker parts of his calling range from being scared away by future cards. Any 5, 6, 9 or 10 on the river makes four to a straight, and any diamond makes four to a flush. He might even fold a set to a bet on those rivers, in which case you just lost a heap of value.
On the river, I think I probably shove, since our hand is incredibly underrepped and I don't expect him to fold a 7. I'm probably raising any river except a diamond, simply because we're so underrepped, but if the river were different I wouldn't expect us to get called very often. Then again if the river were different I'd expect a different sizing from him, so it would all change.
In general though, probably don't open-limp K4s preflop!
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