November 17, 2013
November 17, 2013
I had been pretty aggressive at this table so my thought at the time was that the villian may be playing back at me. I really thought A10 was doing decent against his 3B range, which I was thinking more medium pairs / broadway hands / suited connectors. So that was my justification for flatting.
On the flop I have showdown value and want to give him a chance to bluff. When he overbets on the turn, this feels really polarized to me. Either he has it or he has no idea what to do with his hand. I've seen bad players play KK/QQ like this as well. They don't know what to do so they just overbet/shove.
But as you mentioned, there are probably better spots than this to pick up chips. But I hate giving up pots!
August 2, 2012
Fold. This is a loose open and a looser call preflop. You say he has pocket pairs and Broadway hands. What Broadway hand isnt crushing you. KQ, QJ, AK, AQ, KJ, TJ. Youre beating 88. Great. Hes telling you he wants to play for stacks. Is this the hand you want to stack off with?
November 17, 2013
June 18, 2013
weirdFlop, remember this is a 6 max, not a full ring. I understand folding pre at UTG+1 with ATo and would be considered loose. With facing a 3 bet, my inital thought would be fold and wait for a better spot. It just seems like that the call, as Jacob is saying, better have a plan but when you check it down.
This flop doesn't boad well for ATo. As played, i'd be looking for the fold button. The 3 bet range has J's all over the place. I am kind of leaning toward a fold on the 3 bet. Maybe would have floated ATs and 99+ but ATo is a slight dog against a 3 bet range.
November 17, 2013
Good point that his range has a ton of J's. I ran the math this afternoon and the call is definitely not +ev against his range. Prob around 40% – so yeah, if this had been suited it would have been a better call I think.
But like a fish I called his turn bet and river shove and he flipped over J5. Lesson learned!
August 16, 2013
I think the call pre is a mistake if your reasoning (his range includes medium pairs and broadways) is correct. That's because even though it contains some hands that ATo is decent against, you're also contending with the top of his 3-bet range which crushes you; playing OOP with a hand like ATo is not the ticket to profitville. The merits of calling might be different if you think he's 3-betting you with a polarized range rather than a strong de-polarized range, though even in that case I think the right play here is either folding or 4bet/folding pre. I'd rather flat a 3 bet OOP with a hand that has good implied odds (T9s, 76s) if the price is right than a hand with reverse implied odds.
As played, fold the turn, and villain played the hand quite well. It doesn't look fishy to me at all – his preflop 3 bet sizing was good, and after you check the turn he can punish you and your obviously capped range by betting large with his entire range. I would like bet/folding the turn better than bluffcatching turn and river.
January 27, 2013
Well I just saw the results, so I don't know if I should even answer this. But instead I'll tell you what I was thinking before I read down to the point where I saw that he had J5….
I like your call of the RR. AT five handed is going to be the best hand more often than not. When the flop comes J J T, I would bet here. Find out where you stand. I would normally bet about 1/3 of pot on rainbow boards, but with a flush draw and straight draw out there I would bet around 2/5, maybe 1222…
See what he does after that and go from there. But 5-handed, I would never check this flop. Any club, any Q, K, or 9 (and even an Ace) and you have no idea where you stand. I think you have to bet the flop.
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