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December 26, 2015
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UTG 306k
UTG + 1 192K
UTG + 2 529k
UTG + 3 152k
UTG + 4 667k
UTG + 5 555K
Dealer 331k
SB (Hero) 878K (chipleader) QQ
BB 462K
BLINDS = 10k/20k
28 remaining in tournament of 1136. (1st pays 1850, Guaranteed 60’ish now slow pay jumps to 9th at 135 payout).
ACTION: Folds to UTG + 3 who shoves 152k stack. UTG 4 folds, UTG 5 flats 152k (from 555k stack), dealer folds and action on hero (me) Holding QQ.
Reads – Shorty has been active, wide range of shoves in later positions for blind steals. 555k stack not much of a read. BB 462k stack is very cautious, gets out of the way a lot and wants to play low variance for certain, cheap flops and very aggressive on the flop. Not much squeezes seen from him however. Thoughts on what you would do and why, then I’ll let you know the line I took and what happened. Hand happened just tonight, so sorry no converter, tried to put it in here as easy as could be.
August 20, 2015
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Hi there,
I’m really interested to see some more knowledgable players give their opinion on this hand. I would see the flat call as either kk+ trying to induce or a weaker pocket pair that doesn’t want to risk their stack. There are more combos of lower pocket pairs and a lot of dead money in the middle so I’d be inclined to get it in. If the BB wakes up with a hand it’s a cooler. I don’t think we really want to be flatting and playing QQ out of position, we risk 18% of our stack and with no read would be considering check folding any K or A high board to UTG5.
Just put this through PT4 equity calculator. Giving the initial raiser a 25% range (22+, A2s+, K8s+, T9s+, A2o+, KJo+), and the flat caller a range of 8% (22+, ATs, AJo) we have 53.70% equity with queens assuming the bb folds. I’ve given the flatter all pocket pairs and the extra aces as I think AQ and AK will get it in, but maybe they like the look of their hand, can’t fold but don’t want to risk their whole stack.
I certainly wouldn’t be loving it, but I’d be going with it unless I had a read on UTG5.
(First post on the forum, so take it easy on me 
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December 6, 2012
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Nice post luthor, welcome to the forums. Your ranges seem reasonable, and the only thing I’d really quibble with is the “wouldn’t be loving it” claim. Having 53% equity in the main pot when you will be getting better than 2:1 on your money is a tremendous edge, certainly something to be excited about. Even if we assume that we’ll be slightly behind in the sidepot if UTG5 calls the shove (can’t imagine him being tighter than JJ+,AK), there’s so much value in the main pot that I consider this a very straight forward shove. And the tighter UTG5 calls our shove, the more fold equity we have, leaving us as a BIG favorite in the main pot with only one opponent to beat at showdown.
Anything other than a shove would be a big mistake IMO.
May 30, 2012
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100% I’m shoving. You should be ahead of the flatter. Ship it and lets see the 5 cards plz dealer.
Welcome to the both of you.
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April 6, 2010
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ahhh, the good old 101010!
As you and I know well kalith, these later Bovada tourneys are tough to predict sometimes. I’m getting it in here, but im never super confident in what I am going to see the flatter turn over.
December 26, 2015
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So now that we’ve heard some responses is this the time to let you know how it ended?
open shove shorty got it in with 88, flat was AJ off, I shoved my Queens and BB folded behind. Feels like AJ made a mistake not shoving himself. He had around a 25 blind stack and had AJ. I wasn’t playing nitty and was chipleader, I don’t know if AJ is a great spot to be inducing with a flat of 7 – 8 bigs with 17 bigs behind?!?!?
Flop J73
Turn J735
River Ace . . .
But I still felt great about it, Couldn’t really have asked for a better spot there. Ended up still with 15 bigs, was able to recover a bit and fight it out to 14th place. Once bovada lets me have a look more I’ll put in my donk shove with Kd8d for review, I’m pretty sure it was a big mistake even with 10 Big Blinds, I probably could have chosen better spots and even folded to the FT with a decent stack.
@KB = My friends and I were watching two nights ago on stream, pretty sure you just got 2 more hardcore fans lol. You were in epic shape that night, gratz on 100 followers, feeling a bit bad for your liver however.
August 20, 2015
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Nice hand, unlucky on the outcome.
What would be the bottom of your shuv range here ? I think I’d be wary of getting 10’s in here, but we are ahead of UTG5’s range here with 88 according to PT4.
When I said I wouldn’t be loving it, that’s just the cynical git that Pokerstars RNG has made me become 😉
GG
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December 6, 2012
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Yeah I’d still shove TT without thinking too hard about it.
Villain’s play with the AJ I think is close. With a little more behind, I think calling and then folding to your shove would be correct. It might even be correct here.
August 20, 2015
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Thanks for the input. And apologies to OP for jumping in on your thread 😉
January 20, 2014
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Welcome Kalith and Luthor! Great posts.
Yeah definately shoving TT. One thing about this spot that is very good for Hero is you only have one player to act behind you: the big blind.
If on the other hand, you had a UTG shover, then a UTG+2 caller, and you are in MP with TT, then you have more of a decision. Because you have several more players left to act. They could all wake up with a hand. But here you only have one.
I think I would be shoving here with 99+, AQo+
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August 25, 2012
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Good discussion here guys, but as Andrew says, this one is a comfortable shove. When there’s a lot of money in the pot, you don’t need to have that much equity to get it in. There’s a big difference between having good equity and having good EV – you can have very little equity and still have great EV, but it’s virtually impossible for it to be the other way around.
December 26, 2015
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If I wanted to post something from the hand that eventually knocked me out of the tournament would I need to make a new thread or would here be OK? I just recently subscribed to ICMizer2 and wanting to get a little help on the range building aspect of this.
It auto loaded up 8% calling range for the BB, but don’t you feel like he’d be calling a little wider than 8% (especially Bovadaments)? At 8% it shows I can shove any two hands profitably. I guess at this stage in the tourney (14 left of a 1135 field with 1890 up top and 90 guaranteed to me) I may very well be shoving any two cards heads up Blind vs. blind. But I’d love some feedback on the range I built for his calling range. Hope the links are ok to post below like this as well to my ICMizer screenshots.
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