March 29, 2016
I think what got you into trouble here is calling the flop. I’d assume you intended to slow play your 2 pair, but there are several reasons for check-raising the flop.
– get value from Kx, straight draws
– protect against bad cards on turn/river – I’d consinder Ax-Tx as bad turns since villain could make stronger 2pair combos
If the villain shoves your check-raise it would protect you also from better hands than yours (although there are not many better hands since you block 8s & 9s.
Turn & river play is fine for me, I would do the same.
I don’t think you’ve made a big mistake, I’m fine with the line you played, you just got unlucky running into better hand.
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
I think check-raising and check-calling flop are both valid lines, but I would check-jam turn every time here. It’s going to look so much like you have a pair+draw type hand, and villain is never folding Kx. You get additional value out of some 2-barrels, but you don’t leave yourself in a river bluff-catch spot. Calling off your stack at a FT isn’t a great spot ICM-wise even if you do have a strong hand, but I think once you get to this point it’s hard to fold.
July 12, 2013
This is a hand I have in my donking range since it is slightly vulnerable. We know what we’re doing if he re-raises. If he folds it’s fine since we should have hands that aren’t this good we’re donking as well. I’m just looking to get chips in obviously. Ranges are wide here and we’re just beating so much of his range here… Even if he have him opening tight tight. I just checked the spoiler and we just ran into it… I’m perfectly fine losing all my chips here.
If we put this into flopzilla with a 9% range our hand is best 94.78% of the time. As we widen his range… Because of this flop we are actually slightly worse but nothing to concern ourselves with.
Question to TheGinger if he reads this… What hands are you donking if not this? CHEERS!
TPE Pro
December 6, 2012
Probably just don’t want to have a donking range in this spot at all. Most of your range will be happy to play smaller pots at the final table, so there really isn’t much you’d want to donk. I don’t agree that this hand is particularly vulnerable, especially not to a checking range. I’d expect the hands with the most outs to bet the flop, so check-raising would still be better than donking. I like check-raise better than check-call, but it can’t be a big difference. Still, I worry when it looks like people are just reflexively slowplaying strong hands, because that’s not a good default. There’s no point where you should be thinking about folding this, if that’s the question here.
I dont hate your line given that this player has been aggressive for 6 of the last 7 hands where he’s had the big stack. If you think he will triple barrel Kx and some bluffs, your line is great and you have a perfect hand for it since 2 pair blocks better hands… like a set on eights. Hate it when that happens, but well played.
Basically, do whatever is likely to get all the money in. You basically have the nuts.
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