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June 2, 2013
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Hello!
I am not sure if this hand has some value, what you guys think?
I bet twice, but now I think I should have check/folded OTT… Thoughs?
Merge, $3.30 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
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Hero (SB): 36,940 (73.9 bb)
BB: 24,626 (49.3 bb)
UTG+1: 31,280 (62.6 bb)
UTG+2: 39,879 (79.8 bb)
MP1: 15,735 (31.5 bb)
MP2: 19,090 (38.2 bb)
MP3: 16,450 (32.9 bb)
CO: 19,104 (38.2 bb)
BTN: 65,056 (130.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
T
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 500, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 500, MP3 calls 500, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks
Flop: (2,950) 8
J T
(5 players)
Hero bets 1,000, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 1,000, MP2 calls 1,000, MP3 folds
Turn: (5,950) Q (3 players)
Hero bets 2,000, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls 2,000
River: (9,950) K (2 players)
Hero checks, …
April 30, 2015
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I see value on the flop, but turn and river obviously screwed our 2-pair hand up… I think it is a good bet on the flop, as I feel it is easy to get carried away with 2-pair on the flop and bet big. Since the board is wetter than Seattle, you are gonna get called in a multi-way pot. Then, you need to figure out a strategy for turn/river..
I am not sure if my line is right, but what does betting the turn get you here? I might have been inclined to c-c the turn and check-evaluate the river if the turn/river is very connected. If the turn was a blank though, I would fire…
Also, your check OTR tells me the best hand you can have here is a straight with a 9. So, as the villain, if I can represent an A (something like AT, AJ), I can get you to fold.
June 2, 2013
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navinbits said
… but what does betting the turn get you here? …
Also, your check OTR tells me the best hand you can have here is a straight with a 9. So, as the villain, if I can represent an A (something like AT, AJ), I can get you to fold.
I bet small OTT to not have to check/call a bigger bet. Still think I should check/fold turn/river.
I did go for a check/fold OTR, there is way too many hands that beat me. You think is a check/call? Like bluff catch? What kind of a range you expect V to bet as bluff OTR?
April 30, 2015
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I don’t think you can check-call the river once you have lead the turn… I think folding is the right move here. Most hands that V might have tried to bluff, like AT/AJ or KJ/KQ have improved.. The question I am trying to figure out is that what % of time the villain holds a straight here, and more specifically, an A-high straight. If you had check-called the Q on the turn, the villain might have you on a straight and if you check the river, he might find a check back…
I am thinking if there is any way you could have bluff-repped the A on the river and get a fold? I think it is very difficult on this board as villain could hero call with a 9 if he is up for it…
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December 6, 2012
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Bet bigger on flop. I know it’s tempting to correlate your bet size to the level of confidence you have in your hand, but that really is not the best approach. You just have to accept that you’re going to have to give up a fair number of turns, but it’s not the majority of them, which means that you still should have a preference for putting more money into the pot on the flop.
Turn should just be a check-fold, way too many ways for you to be drawing slim/dead. Occasionally you’ll check-fold the winner, but there’s nothing to be done about that; the costs of the trying to prevent that are too high.
Sometimes you have a hand that is strong on one street and not so strong on the next. Doesn’t mean you were wrong to play it strongly when it was strong, you just have to recognize when the value has changed and not remain attached to what you had or were hoping for on the previous street. It’s kinda like having KK when an Ace comes on the flop.
June 2, 2013
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navinbits said
I am thinking if there is any way you could have bluff-repped the A on the river and get a fold? I think it is very difficult on this board as villain could hero call with a 9 if he is up for it…
Don´t think they fold a 9x here, this micro I play calls too much…
And I am not sure i can rep a A str8 as well, maybe AT or A8, AJ sometimes I will raise pre.
June 2, 2013
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Foucault said
Bet bigger on flop.
What do I do if I get reraised? Assume I no longer have the best hand and fold? There is soo much draws there, but this line makes more sense to me now.
Foucault said
It’s kinda like having KK when an Ace comes on the flop.
That is very frustrating 
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August 25, 2012
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As others have said, bet bigger on flop and check-fold turn. Suddenly your hand becomes more or less worthless when the Q hits. Learning to evaluate the strength of your hand based on the board is an important skill, so drilling yourself to do it regularly is a good habit to get into.
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