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Bluffing all the chips away early :)
slasher666
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Hello,

this is a hand from the 100$ Zoom on Stars against a reg. I made this bluff on the turn because I thought when the J hits he has jk, 44 and draws. There should be much more flush draws than full houses. And I thought he would just call this raise probably 100% of the time with draws and full houses. So I wanted to bet every none spade river allin. When the 10 hits I thought I had a good enough bluff catcher. What do you think about this hand?

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds + t5 – 9 players – View hand 3056409
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BTN: t10000         M = 83.33
Hero (SB): t8880         M = 74
BB: t9995         M = 83.29
UTG: t10000         M = 83.33
UTG+1: t9875         M = 82.29
UTG+2: t10000         M = 83.33
MP1: t10625         M = 88.54
MP2: t11523         M = 96.03
CO: t10130         M = 84.42

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is SB with Q spade T diamond
7 folds, Hero raises to t150, BB calls t100

Flop: (t345) J heart K spade 4 spade (2 players)
Hero bets t179, BB raises to t699, Hero calls t520

Turn: (t1743) J club (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t1290, Hero raises to t2850, BB calls t1560

River: (t7443) T club (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t5508, Hero calls t5176 all in

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I like the moxie, but I don’t think you’re appreciating how wide ranges can/should be BvB. Villain does not need two-pair to raise the flop. And in fact, your hand is quite possibly too good to turn into a bluff. I’d start by check-calling flop. Believe it or not, you can win unimproved at showdown, and very few better hands are folding flop. Yes, there’s a lot of Ax in V’s range, and you may want to bluff at some point to get him off of it, but there’s no reason that has to happen on the flop. Realistically, you should be checking this flop quite a bit as the PFR. Hands like JT, A9, K5s, etc are all defensible/good checks. So you aren’t going to want to just fire away with every single unpaired hand on the flop. 

The Qs is a really significant blocker to the busted flush draws you are hoping V has. Without that in your hand, I like your turn and river lines a lot better.

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I don´t play $100 BI, but I don´t think V will bluff river very often, you raise pre flop, called a reraise otf, and check raises ott, your line is consistent with some monsters hands I think.

I assume a 45.85% calling range for V on BB (99-22, AJs-A2s, K3s+, Q5s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, AJo-A2o, K6o+, Q8o+, J9o+, T8o+, 97o+, 86o+, 76o, 65o, 54o), also assuming V is 3betting pre TT+AQ+

OTF we have 501 combo of hands for V, 24 for flush draws (1), 15 for three of a kind or two pair (2), and 9 for OESD (3), 48 combos is what I see V reraising our cbet otf, unless he can have air. I don´t see much reason V would reraise flop with top pair, or second pair actually (4, 120 combos)

   (1) AsJs, AsTs, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, Js8s, Ts8s, 9s8s, As7s, Js7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, 8s7s, As6s, 8s6s, 7s6s, As5s, 7s5s, 6s5s, As3s, As2s, 3s2s;
   (2) KdJs, KdJc, KhJd, KhJs, KhJc, KcJd, KcJs, KdJd, KcJc, Kd4d, Kh4h, Kc4c, 4d4h, 4d4c, 4h4c;
   (3) QdTh, QdTs, QdTc, QhTs, QhTc, QcTh, QcTs, QhTh, QcTc;
   (4) AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AhJs, AhJc, AsJd, AsJc, AcJd, AcJs, KdQh, KdQc, KhQd, KhQc, KcQd, KcQh, KdTh, KdTs, KdTc, KhTs, KhTc, KcTh, KcTs, Kd9h, Kd9s, Kd9c, Kh9d, Kh9s, Kh9c, Kc9d, Kc9h, Kc9s, Kd8h, Kd8s, Kd8c, Kh8d, Kh8s, Kh8c, Kc8d, Kc8h, Kc8s, Kd7h, Kd7s, Kd7c, Kh7d, Kh7s, Kh7c, Kc7d, Kc7h, Kc7s, Kd6h, Kd6s, Kd6c, Kh6d, Kh6s, Kh6c, Kc6d, Kc6h, Kc6s, KdQd, KhQh, KcQc, QdJs, QdJc, QhJd, QhJs, QhJc, QcJd, QcJs, AdJd, AsJs, AcJc, QdJd, QcJc, JdTh, JdTs, JdTc, JsTh, JsTc, JcTh, JcTs, Jd9h, Jd9s, Jd9c, Js9d, Js9h, Js9c, Jc9d, Jc9h, Jc9s, KhTh, KcTc, JsTs, JcTc, Kd9d, Kh9h, Kc9c, Jd9d, Js9s, Jc9c, Kd8d, Kh8h, Kc8c, Jd8d, Js8s, Jc8c, Kd7d, Kh7h, Kc7c, Jd7d, Js7s, Jc7c, Kd6d, Kh6h, Kc6c, Kd5d, Kh5h, Kc5c, Kd3d, Kh3h, Kc3c.

OTT using ranges 1, 2 and 3 only, we still have 24 flush, 9 OESD, and now 8 three of a kind or two pair, total of 45 combos, hero have 33.06% equity against this range ott (5)

   (5) 4d4h, 4d4c, 4h4c, AsJs, KdJd, AsTs, QhTh, QcTc, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, Js8s, Ts8s, 9s8s, As7s, Js7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, 8s7s, As6s, 8s6s, 7s6s, As5s, 7s5s, 6s5s, Kd4d, Kh4h, Kc4c, As3s, As2s, 3s2s, KdJs, KhJd, KhJs, KcJd, KcJs, QdTh, QdTs, QdTc, QhTs, QhTc, QcTh, QcTs.

Tc OTR blocks 3 combos of QT, leaving 42 combos:
a – 14 combos of full house and three of a kind: KdJs, KhJd, KhJs, KcJd, KcJs, AsJs, KdJd, JsTs, Js9s, Js8s, Js7s, 4d4h, 4d4c, 4h4c
b – 13 combos of two pair: QdTh, QdTs, QhTs, QcTh, QcTs, AsTs, QhTh, Ts9s, Ts8s, Ts7s, Kd4d, Kh4h, Kc4c
c – 7 combos of Ace high, busted flush: As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As3s, As2s
d – 8 combos of nothing, busted flush: 9s8s, 9s7s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, 3s2s

Now depends on the V I would guess, the small stakes I play I think a small block bet would be good, to get some calls from ranges b and c, big problem on SPR below 1 tow. Can work better on a check call against more agressive players, their range can be wider than this too.

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Yeah, it all depends on how often he would really bluff the river. As strong as my line looks maybe not that often. It should look to him like I want to induce a bet from missed draws. I don´t take this lines too often, maybe I should. This is why I am really not sure about the whole hand…

Andrew, checking the flop is interesting. I probably never took this line in this spot with a draw with q high, I almost ever fire at least the flop and the turn. But it is cool, he woudn´t expect me to have it if the straight comes and I could cr some turn and rivers as bluffs too.

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