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Bigger 75 FT - reshoving range
florianm1
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August 15, 2015 - 4:56 am
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Hello all,

 

i  am currently going over the HH from last weeks bigger75 FT.

we are at the FT in the middle of the pack with 30BB.

following hand occurs.

PokerStars Hand #139172461460: Tournament #1287513367, $69+$6 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level XXXVI (6000/12000) – 2015/08/09 23:50:15 CET [2015/08/09 17:50:15 ET]
Table '1287513367 6' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: torowe (217564 in chips)
Seat 2: ArskaTheMan (376422 in chips)
Seat 3: FireFaux (704070 in chips)
Seat 4: Sajanas171 (229194 in chips)
Seat 5: DOCTUEUR (393875 in chips)
Seat 6: fill_zed (404503 in chips)
Seat 7: extasyman (1518758 in chips)
Seat 8: florianm1 (355555 in chips)
Seat 9: japijapo87 (456059 in chips)
torowe: posts the ante 1500
ArskaTheMan: posts the ante 1500
FireFaux: posts the ante 1500
Sajanas171: posts the ante 1500
DOCTUEUR: posts the ante 1500
fill_zed: posts the ante 1500
extasyman: posts the ante 1500
florianm1: posts the ante 1500
japijapo87: posts the ante 1500
torowe: posts small blind 6000
ArskaTheMan: posts big blind 12000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to florianm1 [8s 8d]
FireFaux: folds
Sajanas171: folds
DOCTUEUR: folds
fill_zed: folds
extasyman: folds
florianm1: raises 12000 to 24000
japijapo87: folds
torowe: raises 192064 to 216064 and is all-in
ArskaTheMan: folds
florianm1: calls 192064

 

i am looking at this spot from an ICM point of view and plugged the hand into ICMizer and it says villain should push 60% in this spot which is:

22+,A2+,K2s+,K3o+,Q2s+,Q8o+,J2s+,J7o+,T2s+,T7o+,95s+,97o+,84s+,86o+,74s+,76o,63s+,53s+,43s

 

i think this is really high and dont think that there are many villains pushing that loose in such a spot.

i think someone really loose would reshove here something like:

22+,A2+,K2s+,K7o+,Q6s+,Q8o+,J7s+,J9o+,T7s+,T9o,97s+,98o,87s,76s,65s

 

but more likely:

22+,A2s+,A6o+,K9s+,KTo+,QT+,JT,T9s

 

what do you think is the most likely range?

 

cheers

 

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August 15, 2015 - 7:28 am
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Sharkscoped him and he looks like a winning reg, in which case I think its a call.

I think you’re pretty close to his range with 22+,A2s+,A6o+,K9s+,KTo+,QT+,JT,T9s. Possibly can widen it to Ax? Not sure and I’m not an ICM expert at all, but I’m not sure how much that plays a role with stack sizes in this situation.

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August 15, 2015 - 9:33 am
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Definitely a call considering his small stack and your late opening position. ICM shouldn't have this big of an impact since you still have a stack if you lose and there aren't any baby-stacks that should bust out the next few hands.

Imo you can fold 99 and worse and AJs and worse here, if every step means a lot to your bankroll (which actually would indicate you shouldn't be playing a $75 tournament in the first place considering good BRM). Otherwise, if you want a shot at top 3 you have to call.

Nice FT, FireFaux is a sicko, extasyman rings a bell, too. How did it go?

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August 15, 2015 - 10:36 am
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i think a tight player would re-raise all-in from SB against a steal attempt from CO wider than this with his/her stack size.

22+,A2s+,A6o+,K9s+,KTo+,QT+,JT,T9s

maybe include suited connectors from 98s-65s, single gap suited likes J9s, T8s, 97s

of course your preflop image and previous history and table dynamic might affect the range here.  I think it is a call without going into any calc. and include the ICM calc.

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Sen said:

Definitely a call considering his small stack and your late opening position. ICM shouldn't have this big of an impact since you still have a stack if you lose and there aren't any baby-stacks that should bust out the next few hands.

Imo you can fold 99 and worse and AJs and worse here, if every step means a lot to your bankroll (which actually would indicate you shouldn't be playing a $75 tournament in the first place considering good BRM). Otherwise, if you want a shot at top 3 you have to call.

Nice FT, FireFaux is a sicko, extasyman rings a bell, too. How did it go?

well the question was more on the shoving range given by ICMizer as they seemed so loose.

so in a nutshell people are way to tight compared to GTO

 

i called and he had 22

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