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May 6, 2013
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Btn likes to flat a lot of hands, but pretty straightforward.
Poker Stars $30+$3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150/t300 Blinds + t40 – 9 players – View hand 2334985
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MP1: BB = 19.1, t5728
Hero (MP2): BB = 16.9, t5063
CO: BB = 12.1, t3644
BTN: BB = 54.7, t16412
SB: BB = 19.8, t5935
BB: BB = 16.9, t5073
UTG: BB = 20.9, t6257
UTG+1: BB = 21.5, t6446
UTG+2: BB = 15.3, t4600
Pre Flop: (t810) Hero is MP2 with 8
8
4 folds, Hero raises to t5023 all in
March 26, 2013
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I'm sure r/c and jamming are both fine. If the button likes to flat a lot then I prefer jamming as you really don't want to take a flop with it and have the problem of the blinds coming along for the ride as well.
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September 28, 2012
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Yep bot hshoving and r/cing are going to be fine. I usually open here because I play an aggressive style and have a decent r/f range here. The tighter you are the more willing I am to just jam(or the tighter your image is).
Something I would like to bring up(for discussion), is limping here. I dont have an open limping range all that often, but from what I understand about great players taht do, this is a decent opporunity(note your iamge has to involve limping). This is towards the bottom of your r/cing range which is one of the keys people look for, and no better hands are changing their GII range versus you from limp/shoving comapred to r/cing. If you are comfortable post and have aggro people behind you in Co/BTN then this could be a great open limping spot.
Disclaimer: Dont just try to aplpy what I said above, its very ahrd to understand limps and I would only recommend this to peolpe playnig midstakes or above in order to combat aggro players(not really combat but gain more of an edge). At lower stakes, thinking like this is just FPS.
That said, the table dynamics of BTN you descirbed, raising or shoving is my go to here.
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August 31, 2013
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Personaly I prefer a shove because you don't really want to induce with 88. We don't want JTs, KQ, A9,… to shove. It's better to induce with a hand like AJ imo but you can minraise or shove your all range if you want to be balanced (or unbalance your range if players are fishy)
June 11, 2012
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Something I would like to bring up(for discussion), is limping here. I dont have an open limping range all that often, but from what I understand about great players taht do, this is a decent opporunity(note your iamge has to involve limping). This is towards the bottom of your r/cing range which is one of the keys people look for, and no better hands are changing their GII range versus you from limp/shoving comapred to r/cing. If you are comfortable post and have aggro people behind you in Co/BTN then this could be a great open limping spot.
i like the limp idea with 18-23BB stacks in the SB,BB if i have a hand i want to see a flop but are not willing to r/c but are not really good enougher for open shoving esp with one bigger stack in the blinds
lets say things like JTs,T9s, 87s, 96s and so on
but i am doing this only from the BTN.
l/shove with >25-28BB i generally only do from SB
October 21, 2012
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I like a shove here, but I think the limp is something cool to think about. A spot where I like to do it is BvB with around 20bb where raising and cbetting OOP is awkard. The plan is to limp lead which leaves me with a less awkward stack or shove over their raise if they raise me light. This puts more in the pot to win than open shoving does and it looks scarier. probably do it with like 88+ and offsuit AT+ or something like that.
July 3, 2010
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Limping won't work too often here if the button is flatty. Unless one of the blinds is a real aggressive reg you're going to take a flop 4 ways too frequently in this particular spot.
I'd be more inclined to limp if I were the button or SB here, depending on my reads on the other people in the hand.
June 1, 2012
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I personally think we are too strong to open shove. I'm r/cing here all day unless the nittiest player in the world 3bets me. You will induce worse and I'm not terribly upset with the button flatting if he's a weak player. Still plenty of opportunities to chk/shove the flop or in general just outplay him post.
I hate shoving this stack size from this position, players these days like 3bet shoving a lot more than they like calling off a 17bb shove. We are short so I'm perfectly fine flipping with a wide range of hands. We need a double.
March 26, 2013
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Have to say with 17bbs here I'm going to take the shove option almost every time with 88. I don't like flatting as I just think we end up having to fold a hand on the flop too often when overcards come down and we ended up 3-4 way. Even collecting the blinds in this spot increases our stack by 16% which is huge really. My preference after that is r/call and in these positions I'm rarely r/f unless extreme action prevails behind. I have 17bbs and I'm happy to GII with 88.
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