pretty sure your flop bet is fine (could go a bit larger ), turn you're going to have to make it larger for sure , i'd say around $2500 (or more) to set up a nice river shove,  so total pot on the river now would be just over 8k. Another way to play this hand is to check back turn for a free card and bet river whether u get there or not. However i reckon the 3barrel is better,  to get v to fold maybe a hand like AA/KK/QQ/TT, think it's pretty difficult for v to call with those hands if you shoved river. Even betting river its dificult for those hands to call , though i do wonder what shows more strength, betting river or shoving? 

@EvilKermit , when v flats hero donk leads otf and turn that dont mean we cant figure out our opponents range just because he calls. I mean yeah being OOP we have less information however that don't mean we cant figure out their range.  villians range does seem marginal i.e pocket pairs,  when they just call flop and turn. Yes they may turn up with strong hands from time to time but i dont think they will that often. i just reckon they are highly discounted  as they would likely raise those on the turn. Though If they have a hand like AJ they may decide to flat turn as they block combo's of diamonds or if they had JT for a boat.For the most part though i reckon villians range will consist more of marginal hands rather then monsters.

oo yeah getting a free card is not possible as hero is OOP , my bad lol.

@EvilKermit, I do agree that you can range better when you check yeah. tbh i don't donk lead much , but i've been looking into it more lately. Donk leading can be good against straight forward players that tend to give up when they don't get a piece of the flop which is around 34% of the time, against more aggressive players donk leading is not a good idea. 

vs aggro players you're probably going to have to 3-bet flop when faced a raise and go for a double/triple barrel bluff , so higher variance right?  It's interesting though , because against aggro opponents we are going to need to construct value/bluffing range when we lead out flop. It would be rather exploitable if we were only going to lead out with our value hands.

An example yeah, an opponent (readless) raises it up from like EP/MP and the flop is like 4c7h8s and we call from the bb we could donk lead with a hand like KsJs , if the turn is say K we could bet for value again and re-evaluate river. Hero also has backdoor opportunities so we could barrel a lot of turns too. This is a good flop to donk lead , this flop is likely to hit our bb calling range rather then a ep/mp open.

now if we had a read that v is aggro , they may very well have a hand like  59s, 45s 76s, 78s, 56s, T9s TJs ect ect , so we may get floated more often then not or even raised to otf or ott. my question is if we think v range consist of draws and random bluffs, would 3-betting flop be a good idea with a hand like KJs? i don't think its that bad if we really do think their range consist of those hands we also could bet/shove a turn depending on effective stacks, Though I'd much rather prefer 3-betting a flush draw against an aggro opponent (if there was 2 suits down on the flop) rather then King high as then we do have more equity , which is kinda counterintuitive as our hand should not really matter if we think v range consist of draws and air , its not like v is going to call a 3-bet with their airballs! anyways i reckon it would be nice to have some back up equity just in case we are called , so yeah our hand does matter to a certain degree.

thoughts?

Totally yeah 🙂

 i  really dont understand as to why we shoud not have a donking range in this spot t? Is it because if we are faced with a raise we have to fold a decent hand with good equity?

You also said that our hand may be good , against an UTG opener, that dont seem likely imo. If we do donk lead we can put a lot of pressure on v , if they have hands like AT/KT or overpairs..we also lose against k high and ace high..so i dont think we have much STD really.

I'm assuming if we are going to c/c our draws on this flop should we also be c/c hands like KJ/J9/J8 or should we raising those? hero's value target would be an overpair like QQ/KK/AA and secondary value targets would be draws.

nice work 🙂

so there’s not much difference in cEV+ between c/c or c/r , both very close. I would of thought c/r would be better though as we at least have some fold equity when we raise. as for c/c it’s profitable for sure but its’ just that if we’re going to get a flop like this shouldnt we be trying to play our hand fast? so c/r flop and shove turn for instance?