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Bet turn and river with KK on ace high flop?
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February 11, 2015 - 12:58 pm
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#Game No : 481638562
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 481638562 *****
$15/$30 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #66251870 $3.60 + $0.40 - Table #18 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: kiddexxter ( $5,200 )
Seat 2: dcmtflc ( $4,556 )
Seat 3: edureturns35 ( $4,965 )
Seat 4: davidheads ( $4,739 )
Seat 5: andreas678 ( $4,997 )
Seat 6: MaitreGras ( $2,744 )
Seat 7: SVDR137 ( $7,115 )
Seat 9: london_ace ( $4,850 )
Seat 10: Riandur ( $5,834 )
andreas678 posts small blind [$15]
MaitreGras posts big blind [$30]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ Kdiamond, Kspade ]
SVDR137 calls [$30]
london_ace raises [$120]
Riandur folds
kiddexxter folds
dcmtflc folds
edureturns35 folds
davidheads calls [$120]
andreas678 folds
MaitreGras folds
SVDR137 calls [$90]
** Dealing flop ** [ 2club, 8spade, Aheart]
SVDR137 checks
london_ace checks
davidheads checks
** Dealing turn ** [ 3spade ]
SVDR137 checks
london_ace bets [$202]
davidheads calls [$202]
SVDR137 folds
** Dealing river ** [ 4club ]
london_ace bets [$404]
davidheads calls [$404]

 
 
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When both v checked flop i was fairly confident that neither had an ace or in a fact a very strong. On the turn and river i decided to bet for value. Does anyone here prefer checking turn and betting river?
 
 
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That flop is too ragged to assume one of your opponents doesn't have an ace because they checked.  I'm pretty comfortable checking an ace there against two opponents, of course, betting an ace for value there is pretty reasonable too.  Whether I bet an ace there depends a lot on how I've been playing and the opponents in the hand with me, but I think I prefer to check the ace, generally speaking.  I feel like checking the ace makes it more likely that I will get two streets of value.

 

If I was the preflop raiser I'm going to c-bet that flop close to 100% of the time with KK  to represent an ace, if one of my opponents calls I'm going to go into pot-control mode and most likely check back the turn prepared to call down on the river, depending on how the board runs out.  The problem here is you're out of position so it's going to be a little tough to control the pot, but I'd absolutely take a stab at it on the flop.

 

I'm a microstakes player, playing mostly $5 MTTs, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but in the micros you get a s-ton of players all stoked to call a raise with any suited ace and seeing them show up with an unsuited ace-rag is never a surprise.  So, when I'm deep stacked with KK I'm going to play very cautiously if an ace comes on the flop.  Any more than two other players in the hand I'm very likely to just check/fold the flop, maybe it's bad to give up so easily, but one of those donks almost always has an ace.

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When you bet turn and river, what worse hands are going to call? What better hands are going to fold?

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