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Bet the river? If so how much?
benf1
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March 4, 2011 - 9:00 am
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The blinds had been pretty inactive so I thought I would try to steal. Thought about barreling the turn but didnt want to have to fold to a shove. Should I bet this river?

 

Poker Stars €2.00+€0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

mikegallego9 (BB): BB = 50.6, t60750
edelalex80 (UTG): BB = 38.3, t45932
nafy (UTG+1): BB = 21.5, t25755
BrunoCST (MP1): BB = 50.1, t60083
morales0880 (MP2): BB = 33.0, t39540
weebbaa (CO): BB = 73.7, t88485
Hero (BTN): BB = 33.5, t40228
JumperA2B (SB): BB = 30.3, t36323

Pre Flop: (t3000) Hero is BTN with 6 of diamonds T of diamonds
5 folds, Hero raises to t2400, JumperA2B calls t1800, mikegallego9 calls t1200

Flop: (t8400) T of hearts 9 of spades A of diamonds (3 players)
JumperA2B checks, mikegallego9 checks, Hero bets t4000, JumperA2B calls t4000, mikegallego9 calls t4000

Turn: (t20400) Q of diamonds (3 players)
JumperA2B checks, mikegallego9 checks, Hero checks

River: (t20400) A of clubs (3 players)
JumperA2B checks, mikegallego9 checks, Hero ?

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March 4, 2011 - 9:20 am
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I dont see many worst hands calling you and many qs and better kicker tens will. Check it and hope you are best, you have some showdown value

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March 4, 2011 - 10:18 am
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Are you really getting better hands to fold?
4 things could happen imho.
You bet they all fold anyways
You bet somevillian calls and more often than not your beat.
You bet somevillian re-raises, you probabaly gotta fold.
You check, you still gotta shot at winning the hand.

So betting here acheives very little.
As above, agree with checking back being the best option.

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March 4, 2011 - 10:37 am
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I think Op is asking here..Should I  bet as a bluff.  The Ace hitting on river combined with the two checks on turn and river means that it is unlikely someone has an Ace.

 

At these stakes I think betting 8122 here will turn you a profit, because I don't think you will get hero called frequently enough.  The other reason I think a bet is optimal is that I don't think we have as much showdown value as Issac or Kouman implied (we only really beat 9x hands).

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March 4, 2011 - 3:35 pm
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Your hand has showdown value and your value is super thin.

 

Just check behind and rake in the moderate spot.  I can't really think of many hands that would hero you here.

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March 4, 2011 - 4:39 pm
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i hate agreeing with wein, but there it is.

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March 4, 2011 - 4:42 pm
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I don't see any reason to bet.  I have played at the mirco level for way to long and know that people are going to call you way to often and possibly with better 10s.  There really just isn't a lot that you beat here.  Showdown value is really all you have going here.  If there was only one player maybe you could come with some reason for value betting the river but I'd have a hard time finding any. 

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March 5, 2011 - 5:15 am
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Thanks. I didnt feel confident I was ahead so I was betting as a bluff. I bet 8400 and was looked up by the BB with QJ.

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March 5, 2011 - 11:27 am
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The deciding factor for me in these situations is the information I gain by checking and seeing their cards. I am going to get info on the ranges of the 2players to my immediate left and how they play from the blinds. I think you can argue those are the 2 most important players at your table. The information you gain on their blind defense will allow you to play optimally on future buttons.

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