December 11, 2013
This hand happened eariler tonight and I'm going to try to remember details as much as possible..
Bovada BDPO Event #46 20k GTD $50 KO 6-max blinds 250/500
just over 60 players left, 30 paid We have well above average stack with about 45bb. Villain has close to double our stack and is very deep and has been playing loose but not sure how aggressive. No specific notes and not a ton of hands on them.
UTG Folds
Hero (~23k) raises to 1000 89
CO Folds
BTN Folds
SB (38k) Calls
BB Fold.
Flop: 74T (3150)
Villain Checks
Hero Bets 1675
Villain Raises to 3755
Hero Calls
Turn J (10,750)
Villain Leads for 7k and change
Hero tanks and shoves 18k
I thought forever here and decided I just didn't think Villain would bet out this size with a flush on the turn. I think he can maybe have sets and 2 pairs here and I don't think Villain check/raises flop with a hand that turns top pair + flush draw. I decided to shove for value here. Thoughts??
April 1, 2014
Generally on bovada having few reads on opponents Im folding 9/10o UTG with 45BB even 6 handed, unless you have a good read that your table is overly tight. I think calling his flop raise is fine. When he bets again on the turn his range is mostly made of flushes, sets, pair+flush draw, J10, maybe even A10. I think by shoving on the turn you take away his opportunity to bluff on the river, and is going to call your shove with mostly hands that beat you. I think I am just calling the turn and calling most rivers except hearts and when the board pairs.
April 1, 2014
Oh also what I do on bovada is when I play a hand I want to review I write down the hand number right away(upper left) that way it is easy to find the hand again in the history easily. Also on bovada 24 hours after the hand was played you can view everyones hole cards since it is all anonymous. So also whenever I get to spot where I fold in a tough spot I write the hand down to see if I made the right decision.
December 11, 2013
Lovethisgame said:
Generally on bovada having few reads on opponents Im folding 9/10o UTG with 45BB even 6 handed, unless you have a good read that your table is overly tight. I think calling his flop raise is fine. When he bets again on the turn his range is mostly made of flushes, sets, pair+flush draw, J10, maybe even A10. I think by shoving on the turn you take away his opportunity to bluff on the river, and is going to call your shove with mostly hands that beat you. I think I am just calling the turn and calling most rivers except hearts and when the board pairs.
Thx for the reply. My play on the turn was based on the fact that I just had a really strong feeling that villain never has a made flush there. I would take flushes out of his range and everything else you said I think he can have. I dont think he bombs the turn w/ AT unless he has the A. Having said that, I hate flatting the turn and I think folding is better than flatting. I think shoving is better than folding, we don't want to give a free card to pair + flush draws and villain is probably comitted here where he has to call off just over 10k when I shove and the pot is at 24k before the shove. Regarding the open, I think it's fine as deep as we are. I was playing somewhere around 30/25 at this point and was feeling really good about the table and the spot. Thx again!
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
Can't really play it any other way postflop – considering villain can still have a bunch of sets in his range and there are only a few combos of hearts he would actually flat pre here, and considering turn is shove or fold with how much is in the pot, AND we have a backdoor heart ourselves, I think anything except getting it in on turn would be pretty bad. The 7, 9, T, J of hearts are all out there already, so what flush cards are we thinking he's flatting in the SB that don't include those cards? Basically only KQhh, considering he'd probably 3bet for value with AK/AQ and as a bluff with other Ax suited combos. This means even if he exclusively has sets and flushes on the turn, he has way more combos of sets.
However, I think preflop is probably too lose. Just because it's 6max doesn't mean you can just open any hand you like. This is probably much too loose, although not knowing the other stacks at the table makes it hard to say for sure.
TPE Pro
September 28, 2012
Aggree with the ginger. Very few flush combos in his range that we have to snap get it in.
I also agree with the sentiments in regards to not opening this hand preflop as it is just too speculative for 6 max. You are going to get enough hands to open that opening wide in this position should not include offsuit connectors like this. I can imagine this being fine on FT bubbles or maybe even final two tables and final table generally with really tight players. But not generally, and it is a bad habit to get into.
Couple that with no long term hand storage on bovada and you are just getting speculative.
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TPE Pro
December 30, 2013
dying to see if OP can check out what the guy had, or if there is going to be a spoiler.
i genuinely dislike the open here, unless your tables cumulative VPIP is like 12. if bovada is still like it was a year ago, you could easily just play ABC in many spots and print money.
otherwise, as like 100,000 times before, i like what ginger says and the rationale behind it.
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