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BB w/ KQo vs sb in mid stages
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December 30, 2015 - 8:10 pm
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$30 BI on WPN
125/250/25 BIG10 – $10,000 GTD, Table 17 (Hold’em)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: nU3DOC (11169).
Seat 2: Reliable_jack (9470).
Seat 3: Locurasuelta (10309).
Seat 4: Sleeper Cell (9480).
Seat 6: TREYJR63 (21256).
Seat 7: tNgrandbuyin (10606).
Seat 8: Hero (6226).
Seat 9: Brosephalopod (6788).

Player tNgrandbuyin has small blind (125)
Player Hero has big blind (250)
Player Hero received card: [Kd]
Player Hero received card: [Qc]

Player Brosephalopod folds
Player nU3DOC folds
Player Reliable_jack folds
Player Locurasuelta folds
Player Sleeper Cell folds
Player TREYJR63 folds
Player tNgrandbuyin raises (525)
Player Hero calls (400)
*** FLOP ***: [Qh 8d Jd]
Player tNgrandbuyin bets (683)

Player Hero raises (1500)
Player tNgrandbuyin allin (9248)

 

Villain has been pretty solid at 21/15 over 68 hands in this tournament. However, when it folds to him in the small blind I expect him to be raising a fairly wide range. Sitting at 25bb I didn’t want to inflate the pot pre so I just call and flop top pair on a pretty wet board. I expect a cbet here most of the time from most players, although upon review I see he has only cbet 1/4 opportunities in the hands I have on him. On this draw heavy board I think I should raise to charge his draws. Perhaps my raise was a bit small but I am expecting a shove from a lot of draws here and that is exactly what happens. Not a fun spot. How much have I screwed this hand up to this point?

I’ve ran this through flopzilla to estimate his shoving range here and come up with between 42-50% equity here. My pot odds require just 32% so this seems like a call and hope to hold with top pair. What do you think?

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I certainly wouldn’t raise-fold. I suppose it’s somewhat close between calling and raise-calling. Probably more inclined to just call against someone with such a passive c-betting history. I wouldn’t be surprised if shoving pre-flop were best, though.

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I called it off and villain’s AQo held. 

Had I read my HUD properly I probably would have flatted instead of raising the flop. I think that was the real mistake in this hand. Really I expected him to shove with draws and to call it off anyway. Is that bad? Perhaps I should have been looking to control the pot rather than get it in.

Turn was a 9 of diamonds completing straights and flushes so that would have been an interesting street to play. I might have found a bluff shove there anyway.

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I think I prefer calling the flop if you’re just going to flat preflop – you have a really big blocker to some of the most likely draws villain might 3-bet shove with (Kd blocks diamonds and KT), so I think peeling is a little better. Your hand isn’t too vulnerable with the backdoor diamond, either.

Having said that, I imagine shoving preflop with some frequency is probably necessary here. We have to shove KQ type hands sometimes to protect our range for the times we want to shove with 22-66, but we also want to flat them sometimes to avoid having an extremely weak preflop peeling range. I think a 50/50 frequency between preflop shoving and peeling is probably a reasonable choice here.

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