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BB defense with an OK draw nearing the money.
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June 3, 2015 - 3:09 pm
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$300 live touranment. We are about about 18% of the field left. In 45 minutes survivors will bag and tag and start day 2 with other 3 flights. 

Villain – has about 150K. Seems to get a lot of chips by timely large 3-bets preflop. Haven't seen him.play too many hands. Recently I opened QQ and he called in positiong. I c/c A high flop, it checked to river and I was good. 

Blinds 1200/2400/300. Hero has 60K. Villain has about 150K.
Pre-flop Villain raises to 3400. Folds to hero who calls BB with :Kd :Th 

Flop (13K) :Ah :Jh :3h 
Hero checks. Vilain bets 6800. Hero?

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June 3, 2015 - 6:07 pm
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Is the villain raise amount correct? Did he raise BY 3400 (by making it 5800) pre?

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June 3, 2015 - 8:26 pm
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Sorry he raised 3000 to 5400.

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I think so. 5800 + 5800 + 1200 SB + 2400 ish in antes is roughly 14K.

 

He probably has an ace with no heart. There's 21K in the pot, and the hero has 54K behind. I flat here because I don't think AxKh and AxQh are enough of his range to worry about losing to a better flush. In fact, if he has AxKh, he's likely to check behind because if the 4th heart comes, you might spew.

 

On the turn there's 28K in the pot. If he bets about $12K and you flat again, now you have a pot-sized bet to check-shove on the river. I don't see him calling with worse on any street, so I don't see an advantage to ever betting out.

 

What if you flat and the turn and river are blanks? I don't know but hope someone else would speculate.

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June 3, 2015 - 9:02 pm
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Marginal spot. I think fold, call and raise are quite close here in EV.

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Villain's flop bet to me, feels like Ax with no hearts, or a pocket pair with a heart. If he has Ax with no heart, I would expect a bigger bet from him trying to represent TP and push me off a draw. QQ with Qh seems to be right in his range here? Any objections to my train of thought?

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“He probably has an ace with no heart.”

That’s an awfully specific read. Why couldn’t he have Ks Qc or Td 9d or Qs Ts or 9h 8h?

It would be helpful to know Villain’s position, but this seems like a very straightforward call to me. You could be good, you probably won’t make better fold, there are a lot of ways the turn could improve you, and you’ll have option to bluff some rivers if the turn checks through.

The last point is the main reason I want to know V’s position. Against a late position raiser, you can probably just check and try to showdown if turn checks through, because V will have some weak hands he’s just giving up with. Against an earlier position raiser, there’s more merit in turning your hand into a bluff because it’s harder for King-high to be good.

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Villain opened from MP1. 

He has a big chip lead and there aren't many short stacks behind him, from which I might conclude his opening range is not restricted by concerns of having to make a pot odds calls toof a short stack shove.

Argumets for folding – I have K high OOP.  Villain could have a lot of strong hands in his range. If I do catch my flush, there's not guarantee I will get paid and there's some chance he will have Kheart or Qheart

Argumets for calling: It seemed like villain should be c-betting this flop very often since it's hard for me to continue on this board without a strong heart or big ace. Since I didn't 3-bet he doesn't have to worry about sets other than pocket 3s and there's a good chance I might c-bet AK or AQ so my range is pretty capped. So from his POV it's a great flop to attack, which means that his range could have a lot of air. While I'm not drawing to the nuts, there's only 2 better hearts than mine, it's hard for him to have a flopped flush with the Aheart Jheart and Theart accounted for. While he could easily have hands like AxKheart or JxQheart he's 3 times as likely to have those same hands without a heart. So calling seems defensible

Arguments for raising: Iust like there's few hands that I can have that can take a lot of heat, the same is true for him. I actually ahve more flushes in my range defending the BB than he does opening from MP.. If i am unlucky enough to run into a set or 2 pair, I still have about 35-40% equity with my draws (although hands like AxKheart or AxQheart have me mostly crushed).

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June 5, 2015 - 7:22 pm
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Foucault said:

“He probably has an ace with no heart.”

That's an awfully specific read. Why couldn't he have Ks Qc or Td 9d or Qs Ts or 9h 8h?

Because he raised preflop and C-bet an all-heart board. I don't see him C-betting with a broadway draw or worse. “Haven't seen him play too many hands” made me think he wouldn't open with 89 suited. I didn't give near enough thought to his position, because if he were on the button I think he would raise with 89 suited.

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June 5, 2015 - 7:45 pm
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I hadn't seen him play many hands since he was only at my table a few levels and the few times he did get involved he 3-bet and didn't see a flop. The player two to his right was fairly active which may have cut down on his chances to open.

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