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November 4, 2013
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Here we have the final 5 of a small $1 rebuy MTT, I'm the small stack as all the other small stacks have recently been eliminated, leaving me as the small stack.
The villain is “salpokerace” with whom I have had little confrontation all game. After 61 hands he plays 24/4/7.1, limping 35%, stealing only 8%, folding to steal 100%, restealing 0%.
My image is rather tight but aggressive, and I have shown down good hands after shoving in the semi-recent hand history. I have done much bet/folding preflop recently. It's been lots of shoving.
Merge Network $150 Gtd – [+R, Turbo] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2250.00/t4500.00 Blinds + t450.00 – 5 players – View hand 2372685
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): BB = 10.8, t48633
dartagnan250 (UTG): BB = 11.6, t52376
ErectAA (CO): BB = 23.9, t107517
fiera123 (BTN): BB = 36.9, t166238
salpokerace21 (SB): BB = 16.3, t73236
Pre Flop: (t9000) Hero is BB with A
A
3 folds, salpokerace21 calls t2250, action on Hero in the BB.
It's his trademark limp and he could have anything. I want to get more chips in the middle but I don't really want him to fold preflop.
Hero raises to t9000.00, salpokerace21 calls t4500
Is this an ok click raise? I figured it would do exactly what my objectives were.
Flop: (t20250) T 8 J
(2 players)
salpokerace21 bets t63786 all in,
Bad flop and he shoves. He could have nailed the straight or two pair, but he could so easily be playing a pair fast exactly as I hoped he would, with hands like QJ, A9, AT, 78, 77, .. I'm not sure if I even mind going up against J9 in this situaiton. He doesn't have air, but does he have me beat?
Hero calls t39183 all in
What do you guys think about the preflop decision to click raise? Would a shove or 2.5-3x be better? What about the call on the flop?
Thanks very much. Trying to be both strategy and tactic minded 🙂
November 22, 2013
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I don't really like the the min raise bc it turns your hand face up. Are you ever min-raising to steal there with your size stack? No. Your range is still wider than AA but it just becomes obvious that you have to have a big pair. If it was me and I was your opponent, I would just snap call and hope to hit two pair or better, and that you would try to ship it. Then again, based on your opponent's fishy stats only, I'm not sure that he is a thinking player. Its difficult for him to have a made straight as it requires Q9 or 79 specifically. Tbh I have no idea what your opponent has here bc your min-raise didn't get information and your stacks are both are so shallow after the min-raise that you're almost committed with top pair any kicker.
I would say raise 3xBB preflop but that would have committed you too. As lol obvious as it sounds I'd probably just shove preflop as sometimes that is perceived as a weaker hand than the min-raise. Or I may even get supertrappy and just check, hoping to get it in on the flop. But I would never min-raise there.
November 4, 2013
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I'm with Wiz on this one…. I think a min raise is the worst option. Raising even 2.5x is going to commit you though, so the plan then has to be call off/shove every single flop, no matter how horrible it looks or what villain does.
I guess what I'm asking is what was your plan for post flop? As I'm seeing this, you have 8BB left right now, with 4BB in pot before he shoves, and 12BB in pot effectively after he shoves. I'm not sure you can even fold AA here if you want to.
All that being said, you probably should have shoved pre. With 10BB in a turbo, 5 handed…. the 1.5BB you pick up when he limp folds is huge. There is a chance he calls as well, as there are a lot of hands he's likely to limp to induce with, and you have everything absolutely crushed. Fancy Play Syndrome is evil my friend.
September 20, 2012
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If you don't shove rockets here pre, what would/do you shove? Counting blinds + antes + limp you get a 30% increase to your stack if he folds = good outcome and 23BB when he calls and doesn't suck out = excellent outcome as opposed to bust in 1 out of 4 – 5 times, depending on what villain has. Easy +Ev shove.
So to me, this is a shove pre all day long.
March 26, 2013
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I would shove my whole range here preflop. Any raise screams “I want action” in this spot.
As played, I cannot see a villain hitting 2 pair or better and then just jamming it in here. If he was strong he would usually take a check line of some description. Here I most likely feel his jam is some kind of draw, pair + draw type hand, top pair-mid kicker, maybe 2nd pair. So, when he jams the flop I'm calling 100% and if he has me beaten then gg me.
November 4, 2013
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Thank you for the responses.
I could certainly feel that I misplayed this hand and wanted some feedback. At this point I am definitely shoving the vast majority of what I'm playing in this tourney spot. This hand is an example of why it's not the entirety, as I did find myself trying to get fancy with AA as OneMoreTime said. OMT asked what my plan was after the flop and the answer is I didn't plan it enough. I can tell that I mentally commit myself to doubling up or going broke when I click raised, and that was obviously a suboptimal decision.
You could say I tilted with aces.
Next time I'll push, and if I don't push I won't min raise. I can see that it turns my hand face up as Wiz says. You offered that maybe my range wasn't so narrow as AA there, but actually it was.
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