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Basic short stack advice please - is this a shove or fold?

dawhiteninja

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March 23, 2012 - 3:39 pm

Simple: Shove or fold? Thanks in advance.

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t30 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

kobe0101 (MP1): BB = 70.2, t17542
Albert Hamon (MP2): BB = 19.1, t4765
comfortseat (CO): BB = 48.8, t12211
chester347 (BTN): BB = 30.0, t7494
berndt33 (SB): BB = 12.1, t3030
thricewind (BB): BB = 44.6, t11143
Rikkievils (UTG): BB = 27.8, t6949
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 14.2, t3544
ignat1977 (UTG+2): BB = 19.9, t4970

Pre Flop: (t645) Hero is UTG+1 with Q of clubs K of hearts
1 fold, Hero raises to t3514 all in, 1 fold, kobe0101 calls t3514, 5 folds

Flop: (t7673) K of diamonds A of clubs 9 (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t7673) J of diamonds (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t7673) Q of spades (2 players – 1 is all in)

terbet11

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March 23, 2012 - 3:45 pm

It depends as well on when the blinds are going up. If you have some time before they go up I don't mind finding a fold here being in ep. IMO you can afford to have the blinds go through you one more time and utilize position, or find a 3 bet shoving spot once they go through. Now maybe if you are suited here I may find a jam, but again you are only going to get called by better everytime and at best you are flipping. In most cases you are going to be snapped off by AK, AQ and be dominated. I am to a little on the nittier side when talking about this, so I am sure that many don't mind an open shove here either. Again, I just think that you will find a better spot with less to get through, or can steal bvb when it gets to you. Best of luck at the tables.

isaacjames

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March 24, 2012 - 11:48 am

was the table tight or loose?

anyway I like that you are first in and have Fold equity on your side, also, doing it from EP always looks strong, so you might get folds from 40bbs or less even with AJs, 22-66. but you will for sure get folds from KJ, QJ, KT, QT, all the hands you dominate. And most importantly, you need to go through a big stack and 6 other hands, and if somebody calls you are sure to be way behind (AK, AQ, AA-QQ) or best case flipping (77-JJ).

It looks like it is not a turbo either, and at these stakes you can probably go through the blinds one more orbit and still have fold equity. I wait and shove wider from later position a range like (22+, KTs, T9s, KJo, even )

At higher stakes ($40+$4) I think you want to make a move earlier as you will lose all fold equity and will be called correctly so I might go with it then.

hawkeyeK9

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March 25, 2012 - 11:40 am

Agree with both Terb and Isaac here. I personally fold this a majority of the time and wait for 3bet shove spot or open jam from late position next orbit.

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