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Hi everyone, just played this hand and think it was right after all, considered the bb who openshoved here had previously (like 7-8 hands earlier) openshoved Ajoff…
Would you play it in some other manner? And in general, with 3 people (and 2 fairly big stacks) left to act, would u play this hand this way at the final table? I usually do…
Let me know,
Filippo
Full Tilt Poker Game #26611122467: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (206559668), Table 4 – 1200/2400 Ante 300 – No Limit Hold'em – 10:48:35 ET – 2010/12/22
Posto 3: whitejin (22,436)
Posto 4: pippo4891 (62,233)
Posto 5: Kalbam8 (87,874)
Posto 6: Jose179 (32,647)
Posto 7: art737 (64,810)
whitejin mette l'ante di 300
pippo4891 mette l'ante di 300
Kalbam8 mette l'ante di 300
Jose179 mette l'ante di 300
art737 mette l'ante di 300
Jose179 mette il buio di 1,200
art737 mette un controbuio di 2,400
Il bottone è al posto n. 5
*** CARTE COPERTE ***
Dato a pippo4891 [Tc As]
whitejin rilancia fino a 22,136 ed è all in
pippo4891 rilancia fino a 61,933 ed è all in
Kalbam8 passa
Jose179 passa
art737 vede 59,533
pippo4891 mostra [Tc As]
art737 mostra [Ac Kc]
whitejin mostra [Ah Td]
*** FLOP *** [4s 5d Jc]
*** TURN *** [4s 5d Jc] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [4s 5d Jc Qh] [3s]
pippo4891 mostra Ace al Queen
art737 mostra Ace al King
art737 vince il piatto secondario (79,594) con Ace al King
whitejin mostra Ace al Queen
art737 vince il piatto principale (69,108) con Ace al King
*** RIEPILOGO ***
Totale piatto 148,702 Piatto principale 69,108. Piatto secondario 79,594. | Rake 0
A terra: [4s 5d Jc Qh 3s]
Posto 3: whitejin ha mostrato [Ah Td] e perso con Ace al Queen
Posto 4: pippo4891 ha mostrato [Tc As] e perso con Ace al Queen
Posto 5: Kalbam8 (bottone)ha passato prima del flop
Posto 6: Jose179 (buio) ha passato prima del flop
Posto 7: art737 (controbuio) ha mostrato [Ac Kc] e vinto (148,702) con Ace al King
Sorry guys, the hh was in italian not in english. 🙂
Here's the english one.
Filippo
Full Tilt Poker Game # 26611122467: $ 3 $ 0.30 KO Sit & Go (206,559,668), Table 4 – 1200/2400 Ante 300 – No Limit Hold'em – 10:48:35 ET – 22/12/2010
Seat 3: whitejin (22.436)
Seat 4: pippo4891 (62.233)
Seat 5: Kalbam8 (87.874)
Seat 6: Jose179 (32.647)
Seat 7: art737 (64.810)
whitejin puts the ante of 300
pippo4891 puts the ante of 300
Kalbam8 puts the ante of 300
Jose179 puts the ante of 300
art737 puts the ante of 300
Jose179 puts the darkness of 1.200
art737 puts a big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat # 5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pippo4891 [Tc As]
whitejin raised to 22.136 and is all in
pippo4891 raised to 61.933 and is all in
Kalbam8 passes
Jose179 passes
art737 calls 59.533
pippo4891 shows [Tc As]
art737 shows [Ac Kc]
whitejin shows [Ah Td]
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4s 5d]
*** TURN *** [Jc 4s 5d] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Jc Qh 4s 5d] [3s]
pippo4891 shows Ace to Queen
art737 shows Ace to King
art737 wins the pot (79.594) with Ace to King
whitejin shows Ace to Queen
art737 wins the main pot (69.108) with Ace to King
*** SUMMARY ***
148.702 69.108 Total pot main course. 79.594 pot. | Rake 0
On the ground: [Jc Qh 4s 5d 3s]
Seat 3: whitejin showed [Ah Td] and lost with Ace Queen
Seat 4: pippo4891 showed [Tc As] and lost with Ace Queen
Seat 5: Kalbam8 (button) passed before the flop
Seat 6: Jose179 (dark) passed before the flop
Seat 7: art737 (blind) showed [Ac Kc] and won (148.702) with Ace to King
I snap fold in this spot. You have 26BBs and you have to hope that UTG is shoving wider than AT and that no one wakes up behind you with a better hand, even though there are only 3 players left to act. If you saw villain show AJo 8 hands ago then this tells you nothing about his shoving range since AJo is in most players' shoving ranges with 10BB in this spot. It helps us to make better suggestions when we don't see the results btw, so try to put the hand history in the converter and leave the results out. Hope that helps.
June 11, 2010
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I can see a good case for folding here or reshoving to iso as well. You are 5 handed and the shover has 10bbs so it is entirely possible he is shoving super wide, but without really knowing the player and not having seen anything from his jamming it makes it harder. I don't really think it is bad to reshove and isolate here, I think it is just flat unlucky that someone found a hand behind you. I am a pretty aggressive player so it is pretty good that given this situation I would play it the same regardless of where I was in a tourney.
SNG Wizard has this as a fold without the utg shove. Versus a very loose shove (23%) it suggests we only get 88+,AQ and AJs in. I'm not sure 23% is a very loose shove in all honesty, but that's what SNGWiz has it as. Villain would have to be shoving 39% for this to be a neutral iso-shove here. Is villain really shoving hands like Q6s and K5o here? I think it's a fold.
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