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I am back in my poker mode now. Coming off a break from poker and changed some of my game. I wondered if I played this line right. Didn't expect the 6 way pot but turned up aggression too much. Is my line standard here?
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Louwho16 (BTN): BB = 39.7, t4760
steve7100 (SB): BB = 50.1, t6010
OrdinaryGuy (BB): BB = 38.3, t4600
Littleherk (UTG): BB = 49.7, t5964
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 36.8, t4419
scaboni45 (UTG+2): BB = 43.0, t5161
pokerman543 (MP1): BB = 48.3, t5790
nhjohn (MP2): BB = 53.0, t6366
MyNameRhymes (CO): BB = 55.5, t6660
Pre Flop: (t270) Hero is UTG+1 with A
T
Littleherk raises to t240.00, Hero calls t240, 1 fold, pokerman543 calls t240, nhjohn calls t240, MyNameRhymes calls t240, 2 folds, OrdinaryGuy calls t120
In this spot, should this be a 3 bet after a min raise or should I have just folded Pre? My previous self (nit) would have folded this. TPE?
Flop: (t1590) 7
A 7 (6 players)
OrdinaryGuy checks, Littleherk checks, Hero checks, pokerman543 bets t400.00 really low cbet there, nhjohn calls t400, MyNameRhymes folds, OrdinaryGuy folds, Littleherk folds, Hero calls t400
Good flop for me. My line here was to check shove. Line good or not?
Turn: (t2790) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets t3779 all in, pokerman543 folds, nhjohn calls t3779
The shove here,
River: (t10348) 9 (2 players – 1 is all in)
why do you flat this hand in this pos? whats your plan?
My plan was and as executed. Check/shove or call shove whichever. Was hoping with this, I would seek value through. To me the board was nice. I also thought that I would get the same information needed by flat ting this board than taking the lead. I intended for a bigger cbet raise but it was only 400 chips. Wasn’t prepared. If the 7 was in someone’s range. I would expected a jam.
i just fold this pre
on the turn, jamming is highly unlikely to get called by a worse hand, and on top of that it looks like at least 1 of these guys is holding a 7 which is horrible for us
folding pre is definately ok to prevent this type of spot coming up
Hapetimes. Looking at the line. I think it would be a fold pre. Especially just being introduced to antes and once the pot got bigger and bigger. There were too many hands in the pot that would give a more chance for a 7 to pop up. It is possible that 78s 88+ A7+ in the range that would kill the range. Yeah fold pre in that spot. Thanks all.
Flatting PF this early is bad with a hand that is so easily dominated by an early positions open (unless he opening super liberally). Now more importantly, the chance that somebody wakes up with a playable hand behind (i define playable for this situation as TT+, AJs+, AQo+) is 26% of the time.
Now postflop versus the EP open, you have added no description of how villain plays post, so its hard to determine the profitability of the flat. Assuming standard opening range of 22+, Suited broadways and ATo+ we flop > 50% equity < 30% of the time (using PPT HvR graphs). This coupled with serious reverse implied odds on Axx, Txx boards, I just cannot see it being profitable at this stack depth in a vacuum to flat.
Finally as played, I don't understand the first check on the flop and I am even more confused with the shove on turn…
The UTG guy was opening up a ton. I almost took the line actually of a 3 bet and if called jamm. It was a micro micro stake.
The villain came to the table about 10 hands in. I had a small sample size history which was about a 37/14 and kind of spewy.
From my experience if UTG truly is opening a ton u r not the only player at the table that will notice this. Therefore if you flat, I would not doubt that there be a lot more flatters behind you (the blinds, at the very least) so now we are in a 4 way pot way out of position with only AT. Not a spot we want to be in. Figure it this way to0 if someone has like AJ-AQ+ behind you they will probably raise and I cant assume we are going to call a 3 bet with AT out of positon pre flop. So in this case its a fold or an iso. The iso is still too risky with such a weak A this early on also. Getting flatted behind after a 3 bet is not going to bring in too many weak hands at that point. Mostly hands that beat you will be behind you if you're iso is called by someone other than the initial raiser. Plus I would like to be iso-ing on more of a 60bb plus stack, maybe 50bb here.
Therefore we end up at the easy decision of folding here.
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