September 24, 2013
Interested in peoples thoughts when Villian Leads River in this spot….
Context: Regular 'Home Game' on stars, players are generally TPE members and MTT regs at mid, low, micro stakes.
10 players in the game, so we start 5 handed on 2 tables and when we loose 1 player, we go to full ring. I have 1.4k hands on Villian and he is playing over that number of hands – VPIP:22, PFR:16, Tot 3 bet is 6.3 (however in the BB, his 3 bet is 9.5, this is the spot he is most likely to 3 bet according to the stats) Very early on in game, starting stacks are 5k, so we are obviously very deep with blinds at 15 / 30…. To the flow of the hand:
Seat 3: BB (villian) (5473 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG (5026 in chips)
Seat 7: CO (4197 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (5379 in chips) – Button
Seat 9: SB (4925 in chips)
SB: posts small blind 15
BB: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [A A]
UTG: folds
CO: folds
Hero: raises 45 to 75
SB: folds
Villian: raises 105 to 180
Hero: raises 180 to 360
Villian: calls 180
*** FLOP *** [7 6 3] POT – 735
Villian: checks
Hero: bets 360
Villian: calls 360
*** TURN *** [7 6 3] [5] POT – 1455
Villian: checks
Hero: bets 450
Villian: calls 450
*** RIVER *** [7 6 3 5] [6] POT- 2355
Villian: bets 1389
Hero: Raise, Call or Fold? and why?
September 24, 2013
Thanks Guys… Yes, upon reflection I do like the call line after his 3-bet pre. I think there is little doubt he would have lead flop and turn and dependent on sizing I sence I would have called down, I sence his line would have been bet, bet, check.
Flatting his 3-bet on the button I would also have a good portion of my button open range, as Andrew simply stated – it was pretty obvious I had a big pair, after my 4 bet pre – I may as well have shown him my cards…
It was the river lead that really through me in game… I was not happy with the way I played the hand…
On the upside, as it was early in the tourney, I still had heaps of BB's, I run it up and took 2nd, which was dissapointing as surprise, surprise I really wanted to take that one down…
We have 3 rounds to go, I am on top of the pts leader board for this cycle; with the winner getting a 1k ticket to a live event of their choice, I already have one x 1k ticket banked so am keen to pocket another for the upcoming WSOP APAC in Melbourne Australia, early October 2014…
TPE Pro
December 6, 2012
FWIW I don't mind the 4-bet, and it's not that alone that makes your hand “obvious” as an overpair. Your flop and turn sizing contribute a lot to that as well. When your opponent's 3-betting range is wide, then at least one of two things must be true:
1. It is a good idea for you to 4-bet with nutted hands; or
2. You should 4-bet a lot as a bluff.
Often, both are true. If Jacob's analysis is correct, a light 4-bet would be really good for you here because Villain will fold a fair bit immediately and then also fold way too much post-flop because he is giving you credit for a huge hand. If you disagree with Jacob's analysis, then 4-bet your AA. Even if you are going to flat a lot of big hands to a 3bet, AA is often not the best candidate because there is so much value in 4-betting it.
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